Ah yes, John Brennan, a voice of decency and honesty......
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jul/31/cia-director-john-brennan-lied-senate
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My man Denzel says it best.
"If you don't read the newspaper, you are uninformed. If you do read it, you are misinformed."
I don't feel the same way Pexbo does. I just feel incredibly confused that it's done when there are so much more things In limbo. Michael Flynn, Rick Gates, Michael Cowen are still cooperating. The grand jury is still convened, Roger Stone hasn't even started his trial, there are multiple sealed indictments, Jerome Corsi blew up his plee agreement, there are multi people like felix sador, Eric Prince and the entire Saudi links. There is just so much more that I expected to continue. I just find something amiss and wonder why all of this has been farmed out to other justice dept offices .
Edit : how can I forget Bijan Kian. Flynn is to be the star witness in his case. This isn't speculation its matter of fact
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It's so weird that you think I have something to run away from. I've already said in this thread, and to you directly, that I think he was involved in some kind of Russian "collusion" and that he, in my opinion, committed obstruction of justice. Unless I frame those statements in the sensationalist and conspiratorial terms you're comfortable with, you refuse to hear them. I'm not sure what you expect me to do about that. You're misunderstanding me because you're choosing not to listen.
I believe Trump trusts Putin more than his intelligence agencies on most things, because he distrusts the intelligence community (he's made no secret of that with years of conspiracy talk), he admires strongmen and Putin repeatedly flattered him. If Trump trusting Putin more than the IC makes him a Russian asset in your mind, then yes. I think the term is ridiculous.
None of this has anything to do with the discussion I started with you. Take a step back and look at it through a different frame.
I am more confident than ever people are going to need an easy-to-digest HBO documentary to stitch together an understanding of all this.
And if you don't read a newspaper you are about £10 a week better off and still not misinformed.
Win/win.
I agree. Really feel that Mueller’s investigation stopped before they had finished their work.
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Maybe he’s having more of a struggle with it than he expected.
Trump’s not tweeting either. Not even mundane stuff.
Trump’s not tweeting either. Not even mundane stuff.
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How difficult can it be to type up a letter that says "No collusion!" on it?
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The only one invested in a Right/Left narrative is you.
You are bending over backwards to give Trump wiggle room.
McCabe,Brennan and others have said they believe he has subordinated the interests of the United States to Russia.
The only matters that are worth speculating about is why.
That is where further investigations come in. Congress will now need to take the baton from Mueller.
In any discussion to have some validity there needs to be honesty.
Well he’s got to type one up that says no collusion when there is massive collusion. Will need careful wording that.
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The plane story is a bit peculiar. I'm guessing they are sharing information with UK authorities.
Yeah, plane might be coincidence, but I’m not big on coincidences.
I’m starting to think they’ve found something bigger than anyone initially anticipated. Anyway, we’ll have to wait and see unfortunately.
Here’s hoping that Mueller is dropping some serious Farage/Banks/Assange/Brexit stuff over to Scotland Yard just in the nick of time.
In conclusion - nothing is going to happen and its a damp squib.
Based on you seeing what's in the report or a gut feeling?
You're half right, his accusers (the ones who claim he's a Russian spy or controlled by Putin) are just as deranged. Trump and his cronies are just the ugly face of U.S political corruption, in which both parties participate in.
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The corporate Democrats & their corporate media know-it-alls can't acknowledge the fact that they were wrong about the elections.
It existed because Trump refused to criticize him shortly after he was attempting to negotiate a deal in Russia. Getting politically cucked in Helsinki didn’t help things out either.
I think Rachel Maddow was ridiculous during the whole thing-her worst moment was "what if Russia shut off all the power" during the storms a few weeks ago. That said I'm less confident that Kyle Kulinski that there was nothing (I'm just trying to be aware of my own ignorance), I just think it was a more measured argument than the "LMAO I KNEW it was all bullshit, and people said mean things to me for thinking that on Redcafe."
Except they are right. Russian interference in the elections has been widely acknowledged by everyone except the Russians and those beholden to them.
Wanting none of that is a problem. Believing in the investigation was the problem. It was never ever going to produce anything substantial. Trusting in the FBI to bring down the President. Laughable stuff.
The fact that your saying it took Trump to expose US corruption is hilarious given the war crimes alone that you could attribute to previous administrations.
And assuming I’m a MAGA guy...
How often does he go 24h without a tweet?
Sanctions?
23hrs is the longest time previously apparently
https://www.quora.com/What-the-long...out-tweeting-since-being-elected-US-president
So is suppose this is now the longest time. Last tweet was this time yesterday.
I'm not buying this is the liberal Benghazi narrative is rubbish. The fact is Putin is just way too clever to get caught.
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He's already been caught by virtue of the fact that Russian activity in the US (as well as about half a dozen other elections around Europe) has been well documented. Whether he admits it is of course not in the cards.
I used to have some respect for Rachel Maddow, now l stick in the same bucket as Hannity & Beck, I'm not sure what's worse either she believes the garbage spews, like Hannity or she's a shameless opportunist like Beck.
Another one who’s seen the report. Well go on, fill us in, when did they show it to you?Wanting none of that is a problem. Believing in the investigation was the problem. It was never ever going to produce anything substantial. Trusting in the FBI to bring down the President. Laughable stuff.
The fact that your saying it took Trump to expose US corruption is hilarious given the war crimes alone that you could attribute to previous administrations.
And assuming I’m a MAGA guy...
Before the 2016 election I would watch the odd Maddow show every once in a while. She's hard to watch these days though.
I haven’t seen it.
I didn’t need to now or a few months ago to tell you the FBI is not going to bring down the Executive branch.
It's better optically for Putin to get caught and I'm sure he wanted this stuff to be out there. He doesn't need to admit anything because a) everyone knows he's responsible and b) the magnitude of the disruptions isn't affected negatively by them being out in the open. If anything, it makes these relatively small actions that much more impactful.
Ah, I see. You don’t know what’s in the report but it’s nothing substantial.
Correct.
I'm less interested in the narrative if not for it, Hillary would have won.
She may have.
The point is that Trump and the Republicans know the Russians did it and were happy to have them do so again in 2018.
They are therefore traitors.
Yeah, she seemed harmless enough back in the day, though never great. Now I think she’s a blight on the Democrats.
Jon Stewart leaves and it all goes to shit
