Well I’m pleased for him there. Got off his hole and battered Hrgovic into submission. He’s good when he finds that belief
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His guard is so amateurish. Up near his face but never blocking shots. It’s proper basic stuff
His feet are also all over the place; guy never rolls a punch. Gets hit flush so often, it's crazy.
What time is the Wilder - Zhang fight? I didn't even know it was on but might get it on since I'm still up.
Starting now
Wilders legs don't look real 
More atmosphere at City's parade.
This fight is very poor so far.
Yeah both looking past their prime
Chris Wilder would have given Zhang more of a fight than that. What a fecking bum.
That was a terrible fight
Wilder not been the same since Fury got off the canvas in that first fight to get draw
Why did he turn to the ref to complain after getting clipped?
Wilder shown up for the bum he is.
Yeah ever since he's looked scared to get hit, he had a half decent spell in that round but then reverted back to trying not to be hit.
Like a sparring session for Zhang.
He should've retired a few fights ago. Only in there to get paydays now. Don't know how much he got paid for tonight, but I think he's weighed up the worth of these final big nights and has thought feck it, why not? But his heart is not there anymore and the one thing that made him so dangerous (his confidence he could throw and land the bomb) has deserted him, so he doesn't even attempt to do so anymore.
Promoters shouldn't be booking him at the rates they are anymore. He's done.
AJ Wilder cannot happen after that.
Been reading few people saying Ngannou vs Wilder for a "Whoever loses leaves boxing" fight.
Wilder is done. A shell of his former self.
It'll be Dubois AJ
Wilder is surely done after this and will retire. He’s lost four of his last five fights. He’s lost against every decent boxer he’s ever faced. He had a long undefeated run by fighting absolute nobodies. The highest ranked and best fighter he ever fought before Fury was a 40 year old Luis Ortiz, who had the better of that fight until a late knockout. After that he’s been comprehensively beaten by Fury (twice), Parker and now Zhang. He’s taken a lot of heavy punishment, that has surely rattled around the few brain cells he had, and he’d be better off for his health just packing it in. He’s not a credible opponent for anyone in the top ten.
I saw this comment on youtube:
The thing about Wilder is, he was never any good. He was knocking out very poor opposition for the most part. All time great punch but that's about it.
Zhang with no fecking chill with that knockout.
Watching some of usyk's previous fights and he's generally pretty reserved about dishing additional damage when an opponent goes down, an interesting attribute off his and whether it's for sportsmanship or somethings else I don't know.
David Haye's live reactions watching Usyk hammering Fury in the 9th round - very gif worthy if not meme worthy!
Wilders often done that when getting clipped from a legit shot. Done it against Ortiz, Fury 2, Parker and now Zhang.
I think it's summit subconscious from him. He definitely doesn't know that he was one of the most overprotected heavyweights ever and just got so used to getting all the calls in his favour that when he does get clipped he's thinking "hey ref, thats not fair they're not supposed to hit me that hard"
Caught up on the Wilder v Zhang bout. Wilder is done, I heard he had another fight coming up and I really can't see it going well at all.
Is that what happened? I just thought he didn't know where he was
It looked that way at the time, but I haven't watched it back. His arms come out as he turns to the ref, and he's completely unaware when Zhang puts him out as if he's expecting the ref to step in. Might just be confusion from the initial punch, but seemed like he was complaining about something.
Fair play for the win but I’d be concerned about Dubois versus Joshua with the amount of straight punches he ate against Hrgovic.
He’s very front on, i’m not sure why it’s not been picked up by his various trainers.
He’s very front on, i’m not sure why it’s not been picked up by his various trainers.
Impressed by Dubious' toughness in that fight, it was probably the most impressive thing for me. We know he's a well built strong lump that can punch a bit so the fact he's dangerous and can finish isn't a surprise, even though he looks a bit stiff and clumsy early in fights.
But the ability to absorb punches is not something he's always displayed but seems to have really found a new mentality in the ring recently. He even got rocked by some African journeyman at some point so really surprised at his ability to eat clean punches off a good fighter. Wouldn't like to see that chin tested against the likes of Joshua if I was his trainer so he'll need to be a lot more switched on defensively.
But the ability to absorb punches is not something he's always displayed but seems to have really found a new mentality in the ring recently. He even got rocked by some African journeyman at some point so really surprised at his ability to eat clean punches off a good fighter. Wouldn't like to see that chin tested against the likes of Joshua if I was his trainer so he'll need to be a lot more switched on defensively.
Hrgović had a fever which took him 3 weeks out of training so he wasnt 100 percent fit. That's why his leg work wasnt good and his whole match. He won first few rounds but when Dubois saw the cut he went for the kill so to speak and Hrgović got a proper beating. He's been waiting for this fight for a long while so its a question how he will come out of this.
Personally convinced he’d have gotten the same treatment from Parker & Zhang even during his apparent “prime”, he was simply never a good boxer and was bizarrely hyped way beyond what his record deserved.
The second he started getting into the ring with anyone decent he’s been caught well short. Ruiz would’ve absolutely battered him too.
His best fight by far was the first against Fury, a man who’d been semi retired for 3 years.
He’s never had much skill but he did have killer instinct and very heavy hands. There’s a good chance they all beat him even at his best but he did have the ability to end any fight with a single shot so you never know.
Once someone who relies on single punches goes gun shy though, it’s time to call it a day.
Same. Probably up there with the most overrated HWs in history let's be honest. The only decent wins on his resume are Luis Ortiz. Everyone else is / was trash.
His trilogy with Fury was entertaining but in reality he was dominated in every fight outside of the knockdowns, barely won a round in any of them when he didn't put Fury on the canvas.
Duran is a G - what a fighter
Dubois against AJ should be a great fight and I think I would lean towards Dubois
I wouldn't fancy anyone who fights face first against Joshua.