If the ref had actually started a full count against Usyk does anyone think he would of actually not got back? He would of and im fairly confident dubois couldn't of finished him and in the next round he would've done exactly what he does everytime he gets rattled.
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It wasn’t low, but I think Usyk would have got back up before the count of 10. A rematch is the fair outcome.
There’s no way he was getting back up and winning that fight, even after a good 3 minutes to recover he looked gone. He didn’t even fully recover for the next 3 rounds!
The ref seemed desperate to protect Usyk at all times, was very odd.
Usyk is too good to need the refs on his side as well, every time he was hit to the body he looked to the ref and then Dubois would get warned.
At the time I didn't think the shot in the 5th round was a low blow and still think that way, feel like Usyk won the fight comfortably but other fighters will think they have a better chance at beating him now, he definitely did not look unbeatable.
Usyk is too good to need the refs on his side as well, every time he was hit to the body he looked to the ref and then Dubois would get warned.
At the time I didn't think the shot in the 5th round was a low blow and still think that way, feel like Usyk won the fight comfortably but other fighters will think they have a better chance at beating him now, he definitely did not look unbeatable.
I’ve just realised…..Dubois caused Usyk more problems by a long way than AJ did in two fights.
So I bumped into a guy at a chicken shop near Huddersfield tonight. Thought I recognised him straight away. Must be famous. Was sure I knew who it was. Racked my brains and came up with a name. Second guessed myself wondering what this guy would be doing in this part of the world today. Then a guy in the shop got a selfie with him. I was convinced. He came out of the shop where I had just ordered outside (this chicken shop is great and the queue is always out the door) . Plucked up the courage and asked ‘is it Hasselbaink?’
‘No’. Replied Johnny Nelson.
Kill me now
‘No’. Replied Johnny Nelson.
Kill me now
No way Eubank Smith 2 is on PPV
Way.
That’s a polite version of what I said, but yes, it’s PPV
Any channels Stateside for this?
Azim's fight seems to be going great from reading the updates.
Anyways, unrelated - a swim in a moving body of water wouldn't be the worst thing in the world if someone can point me in the right direction
Anyways, unrelated - a swim in a moving body of water wouldn't be the worst thing in the world if someone can point me in the right direction
Yeah if there is a river going <3
Bloody ridiculous isn’t it. I’m listening to the commentary on TalkSport and I have never heard so much support for a scouser in Manchester, mind you who likes Eubank, this one or his dad?
Is Smith injured ? what are these tactics.
It's bizarre to watch, I think he's trying to tire out Eubank and then go in the later rounds. However the last few rounds has been one way traffic from Eubank.
It’s a defensive counterpunching style without any punching
Smiths fecking stoned
Eubank has battered him. I think it’s showing that he got complacent in the first fight and took Smith too lightly which cost him in the first fight.
What the hell is wrong with his ankles 
Shocking fight, I'd have hated to have paid for that PPV
Smith annihilated, had no answer to Eubank whatsoever
Pathetic performance from Smith, unless there’s something wrong with him we don’t know about.
Not buying that it’s in his ankles, he literally threw feck all from the opening bell
Not buying that it’s in his ankles, he literally threw feck all from the opening bell
I can only theorise that he was shocked by the quality of Eubank, couldn't keep up with him. No matter what you do if you're not at the level you get found out.
I wasn't paying for that but I am not surprised by the result honestly.
Listening I couldn’t believe how Eubanks completely dominated, far be it from me to say boxing is corrupt but that was worse than seeing an odds on favourite at Royal Ascot getting beat by a 100-1 shot.
Smith threw absolutely nothing. Surely/maybe down to injury and not being able to power through the shots but Eubank dominated him from the first bell.
I just think the eye test has always told me that Smith is a B- fighter and Eubank is a B+
Eubank seems to have terrible professionalism and attitude problems and I honestly think he was being pretty honest about barely training for the first fight and got a wake up call. I think what his dad said about him was pretty much spot on.
Reminded me of Cotto Martinez where Sergio was completely and utterly finished but fought anyway
Liam Smith didn't want to be in there from the start
Yeah I agree. Think Eubank had some skills and ability but held himself back most of his career with his attitude and things like that. He maybe could have been better but he is just a B level in the grand scheme.
What did his dad say about him?
Why are the Manchester crowd so pro-Smith? Eubank is a United fan.
Bingo. He took it seriously this time and was comprehensively the better fighter.
I thought Smith would at least start swinging when he was clearly a mile behind on points but he died on his arse rather than his sword
It was pretty much a crowd full of Scousers.
All that dole money spent on travel, tickets and drinks….and Smith turns in that shite performance….they’ll be fffhhhhhhhuuumin mate
Yeah I've been to a few fights with scousers on the cards and they do come together to follow their local fighters. I'd guess a lot were scousers.
Quite a lot but essentially that he thought he was devoting too much of his attention to the fame side of stuff and not taking his training seriously enough and that he doesn't listen to trainers.
Pretty brutally open interview on talksport.
Shite from Smith but I still think the trilogy sells if Eubank/Benn doesn't get made next.
I reckon Smith retires honestly. Especially as I reckon the PPV will do terribly so the payday isn't going to be life changing for the trilogy.