The Rise Of Ruben Amorim

[WitchWithoutACat]

Thought he was nailed on to be the next Liverpool manager after Alonso rejected them. Who are they actually going for then? De Zerbi?

Southgate.

My housemate is a Liverpool fan and I constantly tell her that he's the favourite for the job.

 

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On his way to London right now.

 

[tomaldinho1]

You'd assume someone from Ineos might meet with him regardless of if there's interest right now, seems an up and coming manager so you want to know what they're about surely?

 

[awop]

Not the worst option in the world for him. West Ham aren't that bad with Bowen, Kudus, Alvarez, JWP. If they got him and supported him with say Diomande (instead of warming the bench of a bigger club) + a good young GK it could be a good challenger for 6th.
The Liverpool job would come with insane pressure and could quickly sink him. Straight away he'd have an almost gone Salah, an aging VVD and the Nunez anomaly upfront.

 

[Infra-red]

Not the worst option in the world for him. West Ham aren't that bad with Bowen, Kudus, Alvarez, JWP. If they got him and supported him with say Diomande (instead of warming the bench of a bigger club) + a good young GK it could be a good challenger for 6th.
The Liverpool job would come with insane pressure and could quickly sink him. Straight away he'd have an almost gone Salah, an aging VVD and the Nunez anomaly upfront.

I'm fairly sure he'd pick Liverpool over West Ham, all things being equal. If Liverpool are saying that he's unlikely now, then it probably means that they have decided to go in a different direction - maybe Michael Edwards favours someone with Premier League experience (De Zerbi, Howe, Emery, Frank), or perhaps they are considering an internal appointment now (Lijnders)?

 

[Maluco]

I'm fairly sure he'd pick Liverpool over West Ham, all things being equal. If Liverpool are saying that he's unlikely now, then it probably means that they have decided to go in a different direction - maybe Michael Edwards favours someone with Premier League experience (De Zerbi, Howe, Emery, Frank), or perhaps they are considering an internal appointment now (Lijnders)?

I don’t know about this. He is very young and if the finances are equal, he has a lot more time to get things right with a very promising west ham squad.

The chance to do something special with them and the extra time he would be given could appeal much more than following Klopp at an overrated Liverpool squad.

 

[B20]

There's loads of wishful thinking going on here, if people actually think anyone would ever choose managing West Ham over Liverpool.

 

[mu4c_20le]

There's loads of wishful thinking going on here, if people actually think anyone would ever choose managing West Ham over Liverpool.

Well West Ham have a fairly young squad on the up. It's not entirely beyond the realms of possibility that they overtake you in the next few years once you lose Klopp, Salah, VVD's pace, etc. Smart man like Amorim would do well to stay away from that rebuild.

 

[Cassidy]

There's loads of wishful thinking going on here, if people actually think anyone would ever choose managing West Ham over Liverpool.

Who said Liverpool even want him?
Maybe Liverpool have someone else in mind

 

[Ubik]

There's loads of wishful thinking going on here, if people actually think anyone would ever choose managing West Ham over Liverpool.

Ornstein reckons it's unlikely Liverpool go with him, who knows.

 

[DJ_21]

Who said Liverpool even want him?
Maybe Liverpool have someone else in mind

A lot of noise was coming out the other week saying how close he was to joining Liverpool. Maybe they’ve had a change of heart though.

 

[B20]

Ornstein reckons it's unlikely Liverpool go with him, who knows.

Might be. I do know if he doesn't come it won't be because West Ham offered him a better job.

 

[amolbhatia50k]

You'd assume someone from Ineos might meet with him regardless of if there's interest right now, seems an up and coming manager so you want to know what they're about surely?

Maybe he’s just not all that?

 

[B20]

Well West Ham have a fairly young squad on the up. It's not entirely beyond the realms of possibility that they overtake you in the next few years once you lose Klopp, Salah, VVD's pace, etc. Smart man like Amorim would do well to stay away from that rebuild.

It is entirely outside of the realms of possibility. They haven't even overtaken your lot and you have been a shambles for a full decade.

 

[mu4c_20le]

It is entirely outside of the realms of possibility. They haven't even overtaken your lot and you have been a shambles for a full decade.

Lets just see how much Moyes was holding them back. Leverkusen shows anything is possible

 

[B20]

Lets just see how much Moyes was holding them back. Leverkusen shows anything is possible

if "anything is possible" is the argument, I feel fairly confident there is no actual merit to choosing West ham over Liverpool.

 

[Klopper76]

if "anything is possible" is the argument, I feel fairly confident there is no actual merit to choosing West ham over Liverpool.

Could be that the club don't want him for some reason, or he's another who doesn't want to follow Klopp.

I shuddered when I saw a couple of people mention Mourinho on X.

 

[Ubik]

Might be. I do know if he doesn't come it won't be because West Ham offered him a better job.

You never know, he might be a massive Iron Maiden fan.

 

[Chairman Steve]

Moyes didn’t get sacked right? Seems pretty brutal to interview someone when the incumbent is still there and have the press pick up on it.

Wish we did that

 

[B20]

Could be that the club don't want him for some reason, or he's another who doesn't want to follow Klopp.

Another? who else? Alonso clearly chose Leverkusen rather than not choose to follow Klopp.

Loads on here have blithely assumed that following Klopp will be a poisoned chalice because Ferguson left one for his successor (who was, worth noting, also fecking shit and dosed his own poison into the mix in rich measure) and have now convinced themselves that the rest of football follow United logic on why the Liverpool job is an awful gig, when the reality is it's still the best job going this summer for anyone.

 

[Maluco]

There's loads of wishful thinking going on here, if people actually think anyone would ever choose managing West Ham over Liverpool.

Honestly, you would have said the same at the time Klopp joined Liverpool. There were far better options on the table with far more resources. He wanted to be an underdog and he wanted to mould something himself. He ended up winning them their first ever Premier League and will be remembered forever for doing it.

If Amorim is promised further backing at West Ham, it could be a particularly nice and sensible progression for him. Maybe even the chance to do something special in the future.

 

[DavelinaJolie]

Another? who else? Alonso clearly chose Leverkusen rather than not choose to follow Klopp.

Loads on here have blithely assumed that following Klopp will be a poisoned chalice because Ferguson left one for his successor (who was, worth noting, also fecking shit and dosed his own poison into the mix in rich measure) and have now convinced themselves that the rest of football follow United logic on why the Liverpool job is an awful gig, when the reality is it's still the best job going this summer for anyone.

It is a bit bizarre, in order to be a successful manager you need confidence, and that confidence will drive you to take on challenges and give you self-belief that you can transfer your success to new situations. I highly doubt Amorim is running scared from the Klopp legacy.

 

[Carl]

There's loads of wishful thinking going on here, if people actually think anyone would ever choose managing West Ham over Liverpool.

Wishful thinking? I'd be very happy if Amorim ended up at Liverpool. Not saying it won't work out, but it's a massive leap and has just as much chance of failing.

 

[B20]

Honestly, you would have said the same at the time Klopp joined Liverpool. There were far better options on the table with far more resources. He wanted to be an underdog and he wanted to mould something himself. He ended up winning them their first ever Premier League and will be remembered forever for doing it.

If Amorim is promised further backing at West Ham, it could be a particularly nice and sensible progression for him. Maybe even the chance to do something special in the future.

Nah. Choosing United at this point in time would be an "underdog" choice if he were to go for that, but also one that comes with the the kind of commercial backing to break the current ceiling that west ham just doesn't have.
We were in a much better position to be successful back then than West ham are today. Just as you are presently.

The only way he chooses west ham is if neither united nor Liverpool offer him a job.

Also West ham really isn't much of a progression from his current job.

 

[B20]

Wishful thinking? I'd be very happy if Amorim ended up at Liverpool. Not saying it won't work out, but it's a massive leap and has just as much chance of failing.

I have no idea who is the best choice now that Alonso is off the table. maybe amorim isn't it. I do know West ham is not something to sway him if we want him. just as it wouldn't be if you offered him a job.

 

[Fr. Todd Unctious]

Moyes didn’t get sacked right? Seems pretty brutal to interview someone when the incumbent is still there and have the press pick up on it.

Wish we did that

We did it when Jose got the job. Cup final had barely finished when the news broke that it was more or less a done deal

 

[Rojofiam]

Seems like a much smarter move to take over a club like West Ham that has ambition to challenge for European spots in the coming years, have an already decent squad and the spending power of a Premier League team will allow him to significantly strengthen the squad every summer, basically. If he establishes himself as a very good manager in the PL, he'll get the bigger opportunities like Madrid, Barca, Bayern, or one of the bigger guns in the Prem.

 

[OleGunnar20]

I'm not seeing Amorim leaving Sporting for West Ham, he is too good for them. (sorry WH fans).

Yeah, very strange move I think given the hype around him.

 

[UnitedSofa]

Moyes didn’t get sacked right? Seems pretty brutal to interview someone when the incumbent is still there and have the press pick up on it.

Wish we did that

You wish we did that?

Well we did with LVG/Jose and the vast majority of fans thought it was incredibly disrespectful and disgusting thing to do to LVG, despite the boring football, he was still we loved by the fanbase. Regardless, pretty abhorrent thing to do to someone. Going behind their back & hiring someone

 

[LawCharltonBest]

I’d be a bit “meh” if he came here, but it gives me perspective when I look at West Ham’s message board. They’re very excited at the prospect and are comparing it to when they signed Mascherano and Tevez

 

[GledTheRed]

Hope we meet up with to replace numb nuts.

 

[Lexicon Red Devil]

I have no idea who is the best choice now that Alonso is off the table. maybe amorim isn't it. I do know West ham is not something to sway him if we want him. just as it wouldn't be if you offered him a job.

If Amorim goes to West Ham then surely that frees up Moyes to complete the treble of managing the three big North West clubs. He was the only man big enough to fill SAFs boots, so replacing Klopp would be a doddle.

 

[croadyman]

I’d be a bit “meh” if he came here, but it gives me perspective when I look at West Ham’s message board. They’re very excited at the prospect and are comparing it to when they signed Mascherano and Tevez

Who would you like to see replace Erik?

 

[JB08]

Seems strange that Liverpool's interest seems to have cooled. I wonder why.

 

[hobbers]

Who on earth will pool go for if not him or RDZ

 

[Judas]

This West Ham story has surprised me, it's probably a more sensible step for him than being thrown into the big job of replacing Klopp, but I still think he'll end up at Liverpool.

 

[mu4c_20le]

Who on earth will pool go for if not him or RDZ

Jose

 

[criticalanalysis]

You wish we did that?

Well we did with LVG/Jose and the vast majority of fans thought it was incredibly disrespectful and disgusting thing to do to LVG, despite the boring football, he was still we loved by the fanbase. Regardless, pretty abhorrent thing to do to someone. Going behind their back & hiring someone

Wait are you implying they should have been told 'we're looking to move on from you and we're going to talk to different managers' before doing it or sack them first and then start the hiring process?

Both are pretty problematic as you can imagine.

 

[LawCharltonBest]

Who would you like to see replace Erik?

Luis Enrique or Zidane. Successful managers who I think would have the aura and bollocks to drive success here

Don’t understand the links to managers who haven’t won anything major. As they all inevitably fail at a club the size of United

You?

 

[E-mal]

Luis Enrique or Zidane. Successful managers who I think would have the aura and bollocks to drive success here

Don’t understand the links to managers who haven’t won anything major. As they all inevitably fail at a club the size of United

You?

I think we need to forget about winning for second else we continue papering over the cracks for some fa cup.
It is that winning nonsense that has made us bring Casemiro and his likes, past it footballers.
We need to look at our football and go back to the basics. Sign young upcoming players and bring a manager that can actually help them play cohesively to qualify for Europe. We have no business talking about trophies, we are so far off it at the moment.
It's like people don't realize how shite we have become