Fantastic post, and totally agree
Same here i have no doubt if we were Oil doped i would still enjoy whatever trophies we might win but it just wouldn't be the same as a trophy earned the ''Hard Way''. If Solskjaer is made permanent and wins a PL or CL title with the current core group of young players we have including a fair few Academy players then thats what this club is all about. Not spending the GDP of a small country every summer.
We’re basically going to games to feed the Glazers whereas if the saudi’s took over we’d be ....???
To be frank, no one respects PSG because they are serial bottlers at the Champions League, not because they are rich. And you can hardly say no one respects City when pundits wet themselves about City's "potential" trophies every season. It's like pointing at a billionaire and say I respect the influence you now wield and your assets, but you stand for nothing. I mean, how do you seperate those? A club's attribute is a part of themselves.
So where does all this “they offered to buy United, discussions on going...” malarkey come from? Or is that just a random quote to lure us knobheads in?
How would you have gone on in the 70's and 80's when all we won was the odd FA cup?
I would have continued to support the club but been very disappointed that we weren’t winning.
He talks about geopolitics for almost the entirety of the video and then mentions that they made an offer to buy United, an offer that was rejected. The only information is that he doesn't know if the interest come from the Entertainment minister or MBS both rumours are supposed to be out there. And he is luring people in, since he finishes the video inviting people to follow him in order to have more info about United in the future.
Why support United though? There are clubs that are far more aligned with your way of thinking, United isn't one of them. Were you forced by your family?
I find that realization interesting because I remember people looking down on continental clubs because they weren't businesses and therefore weren't as efficient as PL clubs from a revenue standpoint. Now you see people who are crying about clubs being reduced to businesses and not necessarily focused on the game.
Our club has been owned by ruthless capitalists since forever, people who would sell it to Satan if the price is right. So why exactly do you support us instead of a fan owned club like Barca? Why haven't you moved your support to FC United instead?
Simply because when I was a nipper no other club spoke to me as much as Manchester United.
In general I would agree but in this case, he attracted people with info about United, said almost nothing about it and then invited people to follow him for more info about United. He may be reliable and may have info in the future but that video is about attracting people with the mention of United.
I'm not looking for morally perfect owners but surely a line must be drawn somewhere. I'd rather not see the club in the hands of a murderous regime.
Fair enough. In any case, I believe there's something in these rumours - there's too much smoke around this.
That line was crossed the moment our shares were sold to business men rather then brought by supporters. The rest is inevitable
Saudis already have significant link with United. We've owners who are nothing but parasites. The line has been crossed a long time ago.
Very rarely were United the biggest spenders under Ferguson. Two seasons out of 21 in the Premier League.
Tis true. Edwards the real culprit and main profiteer.
It won't happen, it is not an option. People just over react.
This makes no sense for fans, United isn't a business from a fan point of view, individually we do not have to accept anything and we definitely do not have to take any business decision. The comparison with the workplace is also misguided because while that would be a business decision related to your livelihood, you still don't have to accept everything and people do resign on moral grounds.
City lucked out by having Manchester in their name.
Why do you support Utd? No doubt for similar reasons as him. Just because some of us want the club we love to win at all costs doesnt make us less of a fan or glory hunters. Who are you to judge his way of thinking isnt Utd? I would support Utd if we were in league 2 but I'd still rather be beating City and Liverpool to titles and competing with the best in Europe. Fair enough some may have higher morals than others and make stands on forums about this but it doesn't make you a bigger fan of the club. Im in the couldnt care less who owns us as long as we are winning trophies camp. Judge me all you want it doesn't bother me and I will carry on loving Utd.
Cheers, if it’s true I’m sure if they want United bad enough they’ll make an offer the Glazers can’t refuse.
Lunch to the embassy?
Yep, it's free. Bring your family and friends too, Glazer bro!Lunch to the embassy?
Okay, the reason I asked is because I do not believe United is a club that wins at all costs. On the pitch perhaps, SAF had an amazing winning mentality, but even then it wasn't at all cost... he would never advocate cheating, or tell his players to dive their way to the CL final. Off the pitch, I would consider us a spending club, because we were always capable of spending when we needed, but not just for the sake of it. This isn't even about glory hunting or who's the bigger fan, I was genuinely curious because I felt like his views would better align with other clubs, not necessarily a plastic or oil one but some clubs really don't care about anything other than results. If it sounds like supporting United makes you morally superior to others, perhaps maybe there is something there. After all, we've resisted efforts from Murdoch back in the 90s to take us over. We could've been filthy rich like City before it was even cool, but we didn't, because I always felt that as a club we still had a soul. Obviously getting taken over by the yanks changed that a little bit, but imo, Saudis and MBS take it to another level. Besides all the negative BS that comes with it, I simply do not want the club to be owned by a political entity. Trophies are wonderful and I do respect the fans that crave for them and are willing to do almost anything, but this feels like a hollow way to win them. We've long been accused of buying success whenever we win trophies because our critics would point to our net spending, but we've always been able to proudly state that our money was earned and not bank rolled.
