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Managed to come back from behind to draw 1:1 against an insanely strong Arsenal side. Griezmann and Isco are both suspended for one game but that is against Plymouth so should be okay, hopefully.

De Gea (95)

Kimmich (92) Ramos (95) Boateng (94) Alaba (93)
Dele (92) Eriksen (93)
Mbappe (93) Kroos (95)➕ Isco (93)
Griezmann (95)⚽

Subs: Christensen (90) Stones (90), Roberto (91), Sterling (92), Martial (90), Goretzka (91), Brandt (90)
Injured: Pogba (93)
Did not travel: Gaya (90)

Key:
⚽ = Goal
➕ = Assist
⭐ = MOTM
= Subbed off
= Subbed on


Next three games:
MD29: Plymouth Argyle (H)
CCR1L2: Valencia (A)
MD30: Nottingham Forest (A)
 

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DRAFT (WEST HAM UNITED)

# of players available: 32 (due to minimum squad size of 21, loans not included)

Rules
  1. Refer to "Draft Order"
  2. 12 hours per pick, starts now. Miss out means you relinquish your pick
  3. Declare your pick, then bid (doesn't have to wait until draft is finished)
  4. Inform the next person in draft order
  5. Cash only. No P/E
    • Squad value <100m: 1.1x FV
    • Squad value 100m-200m: 1.3x FV
    • Squad value 200m-400m: 1.5x FV
    • Squad value >400m: 2x FV
  6. You can skip if you want to, and/or if you are unable to bid (skipping in advance is encouraged)
  7. Must comply with FFP
  8. NEW: Bid must be made within two weeks of your pick otherwise you forfeit the player
  9. After draft is completed, Damien will check if rules are followed before accepting those bids
  10. After all bids have gone through, Damien will withdraw from West Ham United
Draft Order
This is based on squad value as of now.
  1. Crewe Alexandra - Skip
  2. Sheffield United - Missed Out
  3. Mansfield Town - Missed Out
  4. Leeds United - Trent Alexander-Arnold (£18.2M)
  5. Bury - Will Hughes (£3.6M)
  6. Birmingham City - Missed Out
  7. Milton Keynes Dons - £209.3M - Ciro Immobile (£33.6M)
  8. Reading - Missed Out
  9. Kidderminster Harriers - £211.7M
  10. Cardiff City - £215.3M
  11. Blackburn Rovers - £235.4M
  12. Bristol City - £239.7M
  13. Ipswich Town - £244.9M
  14. Barnsley - £245.9M
  15. Derby County - £254.9M
  16. Plymouth Argyle - £271.2M
  17. Hereford - £275.4M
  18. Norwich City - £275.7M
  19. Queens Park Rangers - £279.6M
  20. Bournemouth - £300.9M
  21. Middlesbrough - £301.6M
  22. Southampton - £306.1M
  23. Tottenham Hotspur - £341.6M
  24. Southend United - £343.6M
  25. Fulham - £344.5M
  26. Wolverhampton Wanderers - £355.4M
  27. Sunderland - £394.4M
  28. Chelsea - £397.5M
  29. Newcastle United - £423.3M
  30. Aston Villa - £426.2M
  31. Liverpool - £435.7M
  32. Darlington - £454.5M
  33. Nottingham Forest - £513.3M
  34. Manchester City - £531.3M
  35. Arsenal - £559.5M
  36. Everton - £568.1M
  37. Manchester United - £753.5M

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Season 15/16
Season 16/17
Season 17/18

Week 1-10
Week 11
Week 12
Week 13
Week 14

¦

8.32 - Sebastien Haller (24/89) ¦ 90mins

8.18 - Ousmane Dembele (21/90) ¦ 81mins

8.05 - Matthijs de Ligt (19/86) ¦ 90mins
7.90 - Yeray Alvarez (23/87) ¦ 90mins
7.87 - Krzysztof Piatek (23/87) ¦ 90mins

7.66 - Lucas Tousart (21/89) ¦ 90mins
7.24 - Gianluigi Donnarumma (19/89) ¦ 90mins
7.04 - Lucas Torreira (22/89) ¦ 90mins
7.03 - Piotr Zielinski (24/90) ¦ 90mins
6.98 - Dayot Upamecano (20/89) ¦ 90mins

6.97 - Andy Robertson (24/89) ¦ 90mins
6.90 - Santiago Arias (26/89) ¦ 90mins
6.82 - Wilfred Ndidi (22/89) ¦ 90mins
6.81 - Alessandro Bastoni (19/80) ¦ 90mins
6.78 - William Saliba (17/75) ¦ 90mins
6.72 - [Irrelevant point] (27/91) ¦ 90mins

6.59 - Abdulkadir Omur (19/82) ¦ 90mins
6.45 - Matteo Politano (25/89) ¦ 85mins
6.44 - Kai Havertz (19/89) ¦ 90mins
6.20 - Borja Iglesias (25/84) ¦ 56mins

6.17 - Federico Valverde (20/83) ¦ 2mins
n/a - Nikola Moro (20/83) ¦ 90mins
n/a - Sandro Tonali (18/82) ¦ 90mins

n/a - Svetozar Markovic (18/80) ¦ 90mins
n/a - Manuel Morlanes (19/76) ¦ 90mins

n/a - Riqui Puig (19/70) ¦ 90mins
n/a - Ryan Gravenberch (16/70) ¦ 90mins


Didn't Play:
Bench

Munir el Haddadi (23/87)
Hannes Wolf (19/83)
Boubakary Soumare (19/82)
Moise Kean (18/82)
Eddie Nketiah (19/78)
Wouter Burger (17/70)

U21
Pontus Dahlberg (19/82)
Lenny Pintor (18/78)
Gian-Luca Itter (19/77)
Mitchel Bakker (18/70)
Nicolas Kuhn (18/70)
Ajdin Hasic (17/70)
Lamine Diaby (17/70)
Pablo Moreno (16/67)

Not in the squad


Injured
Nacho Fernandez (28/90)
Joe Gomez (21/87)
Dan-Axel Zagadou (19/83)
Mateu Morey (18/73)

Suspended
Rodrigo Bentancur (21/88)

No Match
Emerson (19/80)
Moussa Diaby (19/80)
Facundo Milan (17/76)
Alanzinho (18/75)
Sebastian Caceres (19/72)
Gustavo Viera (18/72)
Vitao (18/70)
Brandon Soppy (16/70)

Summary:
Players: 46
Played Ratio: 59%
Average Mins: 85mins
Average Rating: 7.10
Goals: 3
Assists: 1
Yellows: 7
Reds: 0
 
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DRAFT (WEST HAM UNITED)

# of players available: 32 (due to minimum squad size of 21, loans not included)

Rules
  1. Refer to "Draft Order"
  2. 12 hours per pick, starts now. Miss out means you relinquish your pick
  3. Declare your pick, then bid (doesn't have to wait until draft is finished)
  4. Inform the next person in draft order
  5. Cash only. No P/E
    • Squad value <100m: 1.1x FV
    • Squad value 100m-200m: 1.3x FV
    • Squad value 200m-400m: 1.5x FV
    • Squad value >400m: 2x FV
  6. You can skip if you want to, and/or if you are unable to bid (skipping in advance is encouraged)
  7. Must comply with FFP
  8. NEW: Bid must be made within two weeks of your pick otherwise you forfeit the player
  9. After draft is completed, Damien will check if rules are followed before accepting those bids
  10. After all bids have gone through, Damien will withdraw from West Ham United
Draft Order
This is based on squad value as of now.
  1. Crewe Alexandra - Skip
  2. Sheffield United - Missed Out
  3. Mansfield Town - Missed Out
  4. Leeds United - Trent Alexander-Arnold (£18.2M)
  5. Bury - Will Hughes (£3.6M)
  6. Birmingham City - Missed Out
  7. Milton Keynes Dons - £209.3M - Ciro Immobile (£33.6M)
  8. Reading - Missed Out
  9. Kidderminster Harriers - Reece Oxford (£3.6M)
  10. Cardiff City - £215.3M
  11. Blackburn Rovers - £235.4M
  12. Bristol City - £239.7M
  13. Ipswich Town - £244.9M
  14. Barnsley - Skip
  15. Derby County - £254.9M
  16. Plymouth Argyle - £271.2M
  17. Hereford - £275.4M
  18. Norwich City - £275.7M
  19. Queens Park Rangers - £279.6M
  20. Bournemouth - £300.9M
  21. Middlesbrough - £301.6M
  22. Southampton - £306.1M
  23. Tottenham Hotspur - £341.6M
  24. Southend United - £343.6M
  25. Fulham - £344.5M
  26. Wolverhampton Wanderers - £355.4M
  27. Sunderland - £394.4M
  28. Chelsea - £397.5M
  29. Newcastle United - £423.3M
  30. Aston Villa - £426.2M
  31. Liverpool - £435.7M
  32. Darlington - £454.5M
  33. Nottingham Forest - £513.3M
  34. Manchester City - £531.3M
  35. Arsenal - £559.5M
  36. Everton - £568.1M
  37. Manchester United - £753.5M
 
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RedSky

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I think we need to do something different for the Draft next time because the last few Drafts have been slow and it's getting worse.

Suggestion:
Exact same rules as the normal Draft with the exception of #2, instead we replace it with:

2. Each Manager has 3 days to send Damien a list of 6 player choices (in order).
3. Once the deadline is over, Damien reveals the votes (spreadsheet) and we then go through in Draft Order each Managers choices. If a player has been picked by a Manager above you in the draft he's removed from your list. If it gets to your turn and you still have players on your list remaining, the highest player on the list is selected.

This would mean the Draft would be over in 3 days (or however many days we decide to set as a deadline). We could even setup a simple google vote form like included here.

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfP_KrY2PJneH2Tn3kZavpO8wD9yaB8N3pO_JPH1QmCQSC_LA/viewform
 
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RedSky

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Just reduce pick time from 12hrs to, say 3hrs. Problem solved

Manager can leave their choices according to preference (any number of player) with Damien beforehand
That doesn't work due to time zones though as some might be in bed when it's their turn and theyre sleeping.

Does the link work in the above post btw?
 

Damien

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Just reduce pick time from 12hrs to, say 3hrs. Problem solved

Manager can leave their choices according to preference (any number of player) with Damien beforehand
Time is too short as, contrary to popular belief, I do sleep.

RedSky's method would be the quickest but like you I think I'd prefer more people sending me their picks in advance. I'm last on the list so it isn't like I can steal any choices. The Barnsley manager was one person who did that - said he wanted x player and if not available then to skip.
 

RedSky

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Time is too short as, contrary to popular belief, I do sleep.

RedSky's method would be the quickest but like you I think I'd prefer more people sending me their picks in advance. I'm last on the list so it isn't like I can steal any choices. The Barnsley manager was one person who did that - said he wanted x player and if not available then to skip.
Can you try submitting a response in the link above.
 

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Damien

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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...R5tQzy_cOkQo-U_PS2fhwyJvA/edit#gid=1885858559

That's the results. So when the 3 day deadline is up, the Form will shut. We then release the form link so everyone can see and we sort the results out.

If anyone has entered the form incorrectly, then it's their own fault.
Would need some sort of guarantee to know if each entry is genuine. Maybe also have an option that says 'I skip my pick entirely'. They could also just enter a blank form but for simplicity sake. Can get more opinions and see what people think:
  • whether to stick with things as they are now (and encourage PMing me in advance)
  • whether to lower the pick time
  • whether to go with your survey.
  • other option (and they can enter something)
 

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Pros:
  • Damien won't get tons of PMs from every Manager with advanced picks. (that might be a negative to some trolls.)
  • Draft done in 3 days.
  • Nobody can argue about the results as it's all automated, if you fail to enter the form correctly, it's your own fault.
Negatives:
  • If Damien was a dishonest conman he could check everyones picks and see who's available before putting his in.
  • People could put fake answers in (we might need a password for this).
 

RedSky

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Would need some sort of guarantee to know if each entry is genuine. Maybe also have an option that says 'I skip my pick entirely'. They could also just enter a blank form but for simplicity sake. Can get more opinions and see what people think:
  • whether to stick with things as they are now (and encourage PMing me in advance)
  • whether to lower the pick time
  • whether to go with your survey.
  • other option (and they can enter something)
Yeah. Could have Skip right at the top.

We could get all Managers to send you a PM in SM with their password for the Draft. Then all they need to do is check your Conversation log in SM to double check what it is if they've forgotten. That way you would get a PM from every Manager once, but never again.
 

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Pros:
  • Damien won't get tons of PMs from every Manager with advanced picks.
  • Also means we get the draft done in 3 days.
  • Nobody can argue about the results as it's all automated, if you fail to enter the form correctly, it's your own fault.
Negatives:
  • If Damien was a dishonest conman he could check everyones picks and see who's available before putting his in.
  • People could put fake answers in (we might need a password for this).
The 'password' for members on the caf could be the first part of their email address (bit before the @). People can check their contact info here. As an admin I can see all email addresses anyway and it is unlikely other people in the draft will know yours. People not on the caf for whatever reason can just send me a message on SM with what their 'password' is.
 

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The 'password' for members on the caf could be the first part of their email address (bit before the @). People can check their contact info here. As an admin I can see all email addresses anyway and it is unlikely other people in the draft will know yours. People not on the caf for whatever reason can just send me a message on SM with what their 'password' is.
Yeah, that could also work.
 

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Given you can only pick 6 players, it also adds a bit of strategy (we can reduce that down to 4/5 if required). If you go for all the obvious picks you may end up with nothing.
 

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Given you can only pick 6 players, it also adds a bit of strategy (we can reduce that down to 4/5 if required). If you go for all the obvious picks you may end up with nothing.
Naah, I'd just go for things that reduce the draft time. Not make it a sheep draft of sorts.
 

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Why limit number of choices to 6? It should be flexible, as you may have most going for the best 6 players
Can be whatever. I just thought 6 because it's less work for the sheet setup and also means you have a little bit of strategy. But we can get rid of the dropboxes and simply have a textbox where the User puts in his list.

It'd be less work in sheet setup to have a simple textbox so all fine by me. Just need to ensure that people are aware that if they miss names off the list they can't moan about it.

I.E. If they forget someone in their list it's their own fault not ours.
 

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You'd have to be pretty dumb if you can't get one of your 6 picks.
 

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What's the rush? So what if it takes 2 weeks to complete?
 

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It’s easier if it’s done quicker as damo has to keep logging into that account as well to do the transfers and if it takes 2 weeks just to complete the draft that could end up being a month of this shit for damo.
No bother for me personally. Though thanks for reminding me to log in to accept.