And very funny in places.The best show ever, the only show I could see being rated higher than it is The Wire. Great characters, interesting side plots, and interesting developments throughout the course of the series.
Good shout on The West Wing. If politics were really that interesting I might pay more attention.Absolutely brilliant, only bested in my view by The West Wing, I've watched The Sopranos all the way through twice and I'v not long since started again, definitely watch it.
Watched the first 4 episodes after the boxing last night. About to stick on the next 4 now. Even the opening sequence to the series (to "It Was a Very Good Year")) is fecking spellbinding, even though I've seen it before. What an incredible show.Season 2 was excellent, loved Richie Aprile
I used to have this opinion to however after watching the wire again through to season 4 with only 5 to come I've had to concede that The Wire is the greater show.The Sopranos is better than The Wire in my opinion. Both are great, obviously, but The Sopranos just edges it.
To be fair I'd disagree, especially from about Season 2-5 there's a lot of focus on the "mafia family" rather than the actual Sopranos themselves. Whilst they are obviously shown and have storylines I don't think they're the main focus as the series progresses as much, they're more filler than anything. Essentially everything always relates back to Tony and his mafia side to, or so it seems.It certainly wasn't what I expected, I got bored halfway through the first season and gave up first time.
It's a good show, but it's definitely behind my favorites like The Wire and Twin Peaks. It's more a comedy than anything, and it's more about the Soprano family than the mafia Soprano family. So be prepared for lots of Jersey Housewives style complaining about anything and everything.
AJ is possibly the worst character I've ever seen in any show. He's pointless, he has no development, he has no emotions besides being depressed. You can tell the writers weren't interested in him beyond what a 'son' would mean to a mafia boss.
The psychology stuff is okay, but it never really goes anywhere, Tony never tries to change in any really meaningful way that would challenge his identity as a mob boss. It's danced around, but it's never really discussed that you can't be a healthy person and make the sort of decisions a mob boss has to make. For example, he has to womanize or the others in the gang will think he's weak, that there's something wrong with him, but it practically ruins his relationship with his wife.
They do spend time with Tony trying to find middle ground, but it could have been much better if Tony was constantly battling with trying to be a better person and not resorting to his mob persona so easily.
Come into a thread about The Sopranos and then start babbling on about other shows that you think are/aren't bether for it and you've a recipe for disasterThe last 2 seasons of the Sopranos (which in reality is called season 6... with a break in between) were pretty weak.... But the first 5 seasons are among the best on TV.
The Wire is solid throughout, although Season 2 threw me for a bit of a loop.
Deadwood was of course outstanding, but the way it was ended / cancelled leaves a sour taste in many people's mouths.
Breaking Bad is fast moving into the rarefied air occupied by the Sopranos and the Wire as the best shows ever.
I would put it in my top 10 tv shows for sure, but it doesn't have that same feel of something like Goodfellas, that gritty realism that's so appealing when it comes to gangster films.To be fair I'd disagree, especially from about Season 2-5 there's a lot of focus on the "mafia family" rather than the actual Sopranos themselves. Whilst they are obviously shown and have storylines I don't think they're the main focus as the series progresses as much, they're more filler than anything. Essentially everything always relates back to Tony and his mafia side to, or so it seems.
I didn't particularly like AJ either but he does have some kind of character development, I always thought the whole point of AJ was kind of the fact he was a bit pathetic in everythng he did. It was showing he'd never be able to take over from Tony despite how much he tried and ends up in a constant spiral unlike Meadow who was clearly never interested in that life and is implied to be going on to other successful things.
The show had it's flaws, I was never a massive fan of Janice she was just a very grating character but again she did have a point in the show. I think it's more down to the actress than the character itself.
It's probably one of my favourite TV Shows ever, did enjoy the Wire but I only saw the 1st 2 series and then lost the rest so will have to get round to finishing it off so I can't really compare them at the moment.