The Tottenham Hotspur 2020/21 thread

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Got to sort out the defence if they want to get anywhere. I keep hearing they might change to a back 3 eventually.
 

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Weird how teams which give us a hiding drop a bollock in their next game
 

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Nothing new here, Tottenham are always capable of scoring goals when Kane and Son are on fire, has got absolutely nothing to do with Mourinho. Let’s not forget these guys drew Newcastle and lost to Everton a few weeks ago.

Kane, Son or both will get injured soon, then we know what happens eventually with Mourinho.
Quoting myself from 3-0, this worked out in the end. As said, we know what happens with Mourinho in the end. Results like this will make his head spin and craziness will happen. Spurs will not win shit, most importantly because Kane and Son will get injured, they always do
 

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They surely won't bottle winning the league from this position.
They bottled the game, never mind the league over a season. :lol:
 

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Lads, it’s Tottenham. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Just read this thread. What a mess. From title winners to just Spurs within a couple of pages.

On a side note, the run that Bale made where he hit the post. Him running to give Kane support...my god his legs really have gone. He looked so sluggish trying to join in.
 

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We fecking threw those 3 points away, mostly thanks to the terrible o.g from Sanchez. 3 - 0 up, Kane hits the post and we fecking threw it all away.
To be fair Spurs looked terrible trying to defend any kind of scoreline. Aurier, Sanchez and Reguilon are not guys who are going to hold on to leads to win a game never mind a title.
 

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Spurs are going to win the title.

Utd have had one of their worst starts to a season ever.

We win our game in hand and we go above them. Hilarious. :lol: :lol:
 

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You know what, most won't admit to it but I... kneejerked at halftime. Spuds let me down. Mou is a bald fraud.
 

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I like Son. I warmed to him a lot in that documentary, but seeing him humbled and gutted just now after his celebrations at OT are delicious tears.
 

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Davidson Sanchez....if the ball finds him, he's really prone to negative outcomes every match that hurts his team.

Against United, I think he conceded the penalty against Martial. Then today he missed the set piece ball clearance for Balbuena's goal, and then the OG.
 

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In their first nine games, Spurs have scored 28 goals, hitting teams for 5, 6 and 7. Yet they have started 2-2-1 in the league, only good enough for 6th with three top four rivals with winnable games to leapfrog them, and qualified for the Europa League group stages and League Cup QF.

That’s a lot of effort and hot air for very little return.
 

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Couldn't have happened to a nicer team and manager
 

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You know what, most won't admit to it but I... kneejerked at halftime. Spuds let me down. Mou is a bald fraud.
I knee-jerk at everything, it's my greatest quality. I did still have the 6-1 on my mind, in fairness.
 

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Still enjoying it mate, whats the point on always thinking the worst will happen? There is no point in football without optimism, us Spurs fans are well versed in it. We have been hearing for the last 5-6 years now about how we "would go back to where we belong". I've been a Spurs fan since Francis, trust me I have seen the worst.
Are you still optimistic?
 

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Lads, it’s Tottenham. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Just read this thread. What a mess. From title winners to just Spurs within a couple of pages.

On a side note, the run that Bale made where he hit the post. Him running to give Kane support...my god his legs really have gone. He looked so sluggish trying to join in.
Bale didn't hit the post. He missed the target in embarrassing fashion. Which attack were you thinking about? The one where Kane actually did hit the post or the one I just mentioned?
 

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Just seen the result and I thought it was over at 3-0. Can’t stop smiling :drool:
 

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We fecking threw those 3 points away, mostly thanks to the terrible o.g from Sanchez. 3 - 0 up, Kane hits the post and we fecking threw it all away.
Are you seriously putting blame on Kane for not scoring off of his left foot from what must have been more than 20 yards?
 

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West Ham created better chances going by expected goals. 1.42 v 1.57

Almost same shots attempted too.
I'm an xG apologist but it absolutely can't be used (yet or maybe ever) to accurately determine who "should" have won a match. Current models only perform well when you take the average of a large sample of games. A season is enough to make some good comparisons, for example.

Having said all that, one huge reason that Spurs have a better attack than West Ham is that they have Kane and Son, who are two of the five biggest overperformers of xG in Europe. So it becomes a somewhat circular argument. xG doesn't mean much when Kane and Son are taking your shots.

Edit: also bear in mind that the OG won't have counted towards either sides' expectation so that massively effects the discrepancy right there.
 
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In the league, I expect them to be strong challengers for top 4, nothing more. Southampton and Untied were very poor, and the usual problems with Tottenham showed against Everton and Newcastle. They might win a cup but Jose will have to overcome what Chiellini would call 'The History of Tottenham' which would be an impressive achievement.
 

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I'm an xG apologist but it absolutely can't be used (yet or maybe ever) to accurately determine who "should" have won a match. Current models only perform well when you take the average of a large sample of games. A season is enough to make some good comparisons, for example.

Having said all that, one huge reason that Spurs have a better attack than West Ham is that they have Kane and Son, who are two of the five biggest overperformers of xG in Europe. So it becomes a somewhat circular argument. xG doesn't mean much when Kane and Son are taking your shots.
I wasn't arguing on who should have won that game, just that it wasn't one sided, West Ham had decent chances too.

I agree with your point on Kane and xG.
 

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The curse of Gareth Bale. How funny would that be if they go on a poor run now with him starting.
 

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I wasn't arguing on who should have won that game, just that it wasn't one sided, West Ham had decent chances too.

I agree with your point on Kane and xG.
Fair enough. It gets really confusing what you can and can't safely infer from xG. It's easily the most confusing and confused statistic in mainstream football conversation. And the media is doing nothing to discourage inaccurate use by providing xG stats without context or explanation.

I'm a huge fan of xG - it's an excellent example of human ingenuity in computational statistics as applied to sport - but it's hard to introduce it into the mainstream without generating a ton of controversy, mix-ups etc. It's basically the offside rule of football stats.

All of which is to say that I think it's fair to conclude that the two teams probably had similarly good chances from those numbers. Stats is hard! (And I use stats in my daily life as an academic!)
 

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I know someone that must be "fuming, fam" right now