Republicans can't even say publicly that they're fuming at Trump for stabbing them in the back.
Never seen a party with such spineless politicians.
Never seen a party with such spineless politicians.
The Trump Presidency | Biden Inaugurated
- Thread starter Raoul
- Start date
-
In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) was joined by comedian Ali Woods to look back at the best and worst moments of a rollercoaster season with the annual United Hour Awards.
Has Ten Hag been sacked yet? We're not sure and we hope not, but it's looking more likely as the days pass.
Who should replace him and why is it taking so long to make a decision?
- Status
Because he suits their agenda. They need to keep him in power, albeit they do hate him.
The First White President - be warned, it's a long read and Trump lovers and apologists (the downtrodden and neglected voted for him out of despair 
) for how and why he won are going to be seriously triggered.
Replacing Obama is not enough—Trump has made the negation of Obama’s legacy the foundation of his own. And this too is whiteness. “Race is an idea, not a fact,” the historian Nell Irvin Painter has written, and essential to the construct of a “white race” is the idea of not being a nigger. Before Barack Obama, niggers could be manufactured out of Sister Souljahs, Willie Hortons, and Dusky Sallys. But Donald Trump arrived in the wake of something more potent—an entire nigger presidency with nigger health care, nigger climate accords, and nigger justice reform, all of which could be targeted for destruction or redemption, thus reifying the idea of being white. Trump truly is something new—the first president whose entire political existence hinges on the fact of a black president. And so it will not suffice to say that Trump is a white man like all the others who rose to become president. He must be called by his rightful honorific—America’s first white president.
) for how and why he won are going to be seriously triggered.Tweet
— Twitter API (@user) date
Replacing Obama is not enough—Trump has made the negation of Obama’s legacy the foundation of his own. And this too is whiteness. “Race is an idea, not a fact,” the historian Nell Irvin Painter has written, and essential to the construct of a “white race” is the idea of not being a nigger. Before Barack Obama, niggers could be manufactured out of Sister Souljahs, Willie Hortons, and Dusky Sallys. But Donald Trump arrived in the wake of something more potent—an entire nigger presidency with nigger health care, nigger climate accords, and nigger justice reform, all of which could be targeted for destruction or redemption, thus reifying the idea of being white. Trump truly is something new—the first president whose entire political existence hinges on the fact of a black president. And so it will not suffice to say that Trump is a white man like all the others who rose to become president. He must be called by his rightful honorific—America’s first white president.
Last edited:
Had to skim that, because indeed Ta-Nehisi Coates doesn't do "short". Don't usually agree with him, but gotta concede that the voting stats by demographic look damn ugly with Trump winning whites across any sub-division by education or race.The First White President - be warned, it's a long read and Trump lovers and apologists (the downtrodden and neglected voted for him out of despair
Tweet
— Twitter API (@user) date
Replacing Obama is not enough—Trump has made the negation of Obama’s legacy the foundation of his own. And this too is whiteness. “Race is an idea, not a fact,” the historian Nell Irvin Painter has written, and essential to the construct of a “white race” is the idea of not being a nigger. Before Barack Obama, niggers could be manufactured out of Sister Souljahs, Willie Hortons, and Dusky Sallys. But Donald Trump arrived in the wake of something more potent—an entire nigger presidency with nigger health care, nigger climate accords, and nigger justice reform, all of which could be targeted for destruction or redemption, thus reifying the idea of being white. Trump truly is something new—the first president whose entire political existence hinges on the fact of a black president. And so it will not suffice to say that Trump is a white man like all the others who rose to become president. He must be called by his rightful honorific—America’s first white president.
He definitely is a racist. Read into Trump and The Central Park 5. Also there was something about him asking black workers not to be in sight or serving when he and his guests were in hotels.
He is racist because he knows racism gets him votes. A bit different from being a real racist.
Oh so he doesn't really believe it deep down? That's much better. I can go along with that.
No, he is a cnut for using racism to get votes.
He was a racist long, long before he was ever looking for votes.
Trump Jr. tells Senate he wanted Russian dirt on Hillary to judge if she was ‘fit’ to be president
http://www.rawstory.com/2017/09/tru...-she-was-fit-to-be-president/?comments=disqus
Please keep on talking.
http://www.rawstory.com/2017/09/tru...-she-was-fit-to-be-president/?comments=disqus
Please keep on talking.
Even if that's true (it isn't) that's a distinction much bigger in your head than it is in reality.
He would still be a racist in that case.
Just wanted to say its in podcast form as well.The First White President - be warned, it's a long read and Trump lovers and apologists (the downtrodden and neglected voted for him out of despair
Tweet
— Twitter API (@user) date
Replacing Obama is not enough—Trump has made the negation of Obama’s legacy the foundation of his own. And this too is whiteness. “Race is an idea, not a fact,” the historian Nell Irvin Painter has written, and essential to the construct of a “white race” is the idea of not being a nigger. Before Barack Obama, niggers could be manufactured out of Sister Souljahs, Willie Hortons, and Dusky Sallys. But Donald Trump arrived in the wake of something more potent—an entire nigger presidency with nigger health care, nigger climate accords, and nigger justice reform, all of which could be targeted for destruction or redemption, thus reifying the idea of being white. Trump truly is something new—the first president whose entire political existence hinges on the fact of a black president. And so it will not suffice to say that Trump is a white man like all the others who rose to become president. He must be called by his rightful honorific—America’s first white president.
His racial harrassment of the The Central Park 5 and racism towards staff was decades prior to him being a politician. He also discriminated against ethnic minorities renting his properties iirc. But yea 'not a real racist'.
That alone is an actual criminal offence he just admitted to, for those who do not know.
Tweet
— Twitter API (@user) date
His dad was a ranking member of the KKK. I them we know what doctrine Donald followed when he was growing up. He was raised a racist.
No his dad was laying the groundwork for Donald to win votes. Oh what's that? Refusing people of colour accommodation in his buildings until forced to do so by the local government? Nah, definitely not racist, just fishing for votes decades before he was a candidate.
Next we'll find out that he's not really a misogynist. His lifetime of overtly sexist behaviour was just fishing for votes.
What a load of bollocks.
Early in his tenure he made a threatening phone call to a reporter: http://www.newsweek.com/sebastian-gorka-white-house-terrorism-adviser-angry-call-559805
Based on that, his mannerisms, and his general Hungarian Nazi history, I loved these impressions:
Coates gave no fecks in this piece, he just let the chopper fire at everyone. Amazing how he broke down the votes by income level, very. very damning.The First White President - be warned, it's a long read and Trump lovers and apologists (the downtrodden and neglected voted for him out of despair
Tweet
— Twitter API (@user) date
Replacing Obama is not enough—Trump has made the negation of Obama’s legacy the foundation of his own. And this too is whiteness. “Race is an idea, not a fact,” the historian Nell Irvin Painter has written, and essential to the construct of a “white race” is the idea of not being a nigger. Before Barack Obama, niggers could be manufactured out of Sister Souljahs, Willie Hortons, and Dusky Sallys. But Donald Trump arrived in the wake of something more potent—an entire nigger presidency with nigger health care, nigger climate accords, and nigger justice reform, all of which could be targeted for destruction or redemption, thus reifying the idea of being white. Trump truly is something new—the first president whose entire political existence hinges on the fact of a black president. And so it will not suffice to say that Trump is a white man like all the others who rose to become president. He must be called by his rightful honorific—America’s first white president.
cc @vi1lain
He's an absolute legend.
I'll be grabbing We Were Eight Years In Power - An American Tragedy when it comes out next month.
I love that he writes against the rewriting, dare I say it 'whitewashing', of why Trump won. It's almost like admitting the ugly truth is too hard for the majority in this country - republican and democrat.
@Neutral @adexkola
Looking at the data -
https://ropercenter.cornell.edu/polls/us-elections/how-groups-voted/groups-voted-2016/
https://ropercenter.cornell.edu/polls/us-elections/how-groups-voted/how-groups-voted-2012/
He got 1% less of the white vote as compared to Romney. He also got 2% more of the black vote, and amazingly, for the group that he targeted almost by name, he also got 1% more Hispanics. Further, both black and white turnout was slightly lower as a percentage of total turnout compared to last time, while Hispanics were higher, though this might just be an artifact of population growth.
There is no doubt that race is an important factor, maybe the defining factor. Immigration wasn't an "important issue" in 2012, here 13% rated it as most important and of those 64% went for him, while the 52% of voters concerned primarily about the economy went for Hillary 52-41. But that alone cannot explain his victory, given the demographics above.
I have read the whole article, and will need to re-read it, but I don't see how it can explain Obama's election, more importantly, his re-election, if race is the primary motivating factor in US political history.
Looking at the data -
https://ropercenter.cornell.edu/polls/us-elections/how-groups-voted/groups-voted-2016/
https://ropercenter.cornell.edu/polls/us-elections/how-groups-voted/how-groups-voted-2012/
He got 1% less of the white vote as compared to Romney. He also got 2% more of the black vote, and amazingly, for the group that he targeted almost by name, he also got 1% more Hispanics. Further, both black and white turnout was slightly lower as a percentage of total turnout compared to last time, while Hispanics were higher, though this might just be an artifact of population growth.
There is no doubt that race is an important factor, maybe the defining factor. Immigration wasn't an "important issue" in 2012, here 13% rated it as most important and of those 64% went for him, while the 52% of voters concerned primarily about the economy went for Hillary 52-41. But that alone cannot explain his victory, given the demographics above.
I have read the whole article, and will need to re-read it, but I don't see how it can explain Obama's election, more importantly, his re-election, if race is the primary motivating factor in US political history.
Hard to seperate immigration from race, given that most anti-immigration rhetoric leans towards racist/xenophobic vibes (Trump's rapist comments).
It is too simplistic to assign cause of most things to one single factor. For the sake of argument, even if Coates is overstating the role that racial dynamics played in Trump's election and presidency to date, you can't deny the level to which many have gone to massively underplay this factor, instead turning to other factors such as the supposed unique derelict of the white working class (probably not said explicitly, but enough Appalachia/Rust Belt references abound). It is that narrative that Coates attacks, and the stats you posted IMO don't contradict that part of his thesis. I'd like to read his forthcoming book for more context, but from a first reading of his essay, his stance seems solid.
Tweet
— Twitter API (@user) date
Once you realise that he and Tyrion from Game of Thrones have the same voice it ruins everything.
Yes, that was my point with the immigration numbers too. There was also this, not from the article, which raises questions about voter motivations and justifications:
Tweet
— Twitter API (@user) date
And I agree about reducing this election. First of all, of the ~60% of those eligible* who voted, there was no majority, a slight plurality supported Hillary, but Trump did add to Romney's numbers. So to even explain his victory you have to define in the data what exactly his victory is, and thus go to the EC or counties flipped from Obama or something, which national-level demographic data will miss.
It is generally true that on both racial and economic issues, the general population is more egalitarian than the voting population. Indeed, similar to the tweet, there's this stat from the general white population:
Which very clearly doesn't show up in actual voting. So either non-voters are more progressive, or people change their justifications after casting their ballot based on some tribal loyalty.
*due to GOP feckery, apathy, and from a pool that is anyway reduced by laws barring felons who have served time.
Since 1949 it is two terms max. Before it was unlimited terms, though only FDR managed to get more than 2 terms (for quite obvious reasons).
all about narrative, Trump deporting people is box office, Canada doing it doesnt fit with the narrative.
like a few months ago Australia and new Zealand put a clamp down on immigration and prioritising its own national employment, and no one blinked an eye, a report comes out that the UK is thinking about doing it people go nuts.....
I would absolutely love to see the rules change and Obama vs Trump 2020.
It would be Box Office. Obama would absolutely destroy him in debates and Trump would either implode or explode at the media fawning over Obama's victories over him. It would be incredible.
Tweet
— Twitter API (@user) date
McCain backs Graham-Cassidy ObamaCare repeal effort
http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/349462-mccain-backs-graham-cassidy-obamacare-repeal-effort
http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/349462-mccain-backs-graham-cassidy-obamacare-repeal-effort
Can't wait to read this in the morningThe First White President - be warned, it's a long read and Trump lovers and apologists (the downtrodden and neglected voted for him out of despair
Tweet
— Twitter API (@user) date
Replacing Obama is not enough—Trump has made the negation of Obama’s legacy the foundation of his own. And this too is whiteness. “Race is an idea, not a fact,” the historian Nell Irvin Painter has written, and essential to the construct of a “white race” is the idea of not being a nigger. Before Barack Obama, niggers could be manufactured out of Sister Souljahs, Willie Hortons, and Dusky Sallys. But Donald Trump arrived in the wake of something more potent—an entire nigger presidency with nigger health care, nigger climate accords, and nigger justice reform, all of which could be targeted for destruction or redemption, thus reifying the idea of being white. Trump truly is something new—the first president whose entire political existence hinges on the fact of a black president. And so it will not suffice to say that Trump is a white man like all the others who rose to become president. He must be called by his rightful honorific—America’s first white president.
I was just remarking, sarcastically of course, about how that twitter user (I already forgot her name) looked biased and agenda-driven as opposed to an objective journalist. I wasn't trying to call it out as a lie nor explicitly disagree. She gave me an Ann Coulter sort of vibe when I took a look through her tweets.
I'm not a Canadian immigration expert by any means so I don't have strong opinions on the article she posted. But what I do know of their policy, being skills-based, is something that I agree with.
@Natener made a good point earlier. Canada and others you just mentioned don't pride themselves on being a land of immigrants and opportunity. I'm still shocked at Canada's behavior though.
Tweet
— Twitter API (@user) date
Tweet
— Twitter API (@user) date
Informative article by Scott Shane. He delves deeper into some of the fake accounts which were used last year.
Tweet
— Twitter API (@user) date
Last edited:
- Status