The dems are as hypocritical as they come, just look at Pelosi and the way they treat honest but naive candidates like Bernie. Look at the damage people like Newsom, Cuomo and de Blasio are doing to their cities and states.
This is such a massive over-dramatization. Limited riots sprung up in the wake of highly publicized incidents of police shooting yet another unarmed black man, and died down within a couple of days.
In Minnesotta, where the riots started, Trump bettered Hillary's margin by 5%. In the specific county where the riots happened, turnout went up 25% and the margin stayed as massive as it was in 2016.
I dont think it's over dramatic, probably wasn't a city wide crippling riots but from where i stand in indonesia it is quite big issue that lastee surprisingly long
The problem with trump supporter like you isnt that you're wrong in your conclusion.
I know that Trump spends a lot of time golfing and invading Iraq was a mistake (Biden was one of the senators who ok'd it, btw). Don't see how's that relevant to the post you quoted.
Anecdotes are not evidence. Nor are they indicative of statistical significance.
How can you say that after all thats happened? Its been a dumpster fire of a presidency since day 1 and there have been so many scandals and feck ups it impossible to remember them all. I heard the same thing about Hillary as well. Yeah, shes not perfect and shes clearly a part of the political elite, but Hillary is objectively a competent, experienced politician.
I'm glad to hear that. Violence in the city has spiked since then though and some citizens are suing the police department for not curbing the violence.
I don’t know where you get your news from, but you genuinely need to burst that bubble you’re in and get some unbiased facts. How you can even vote Trump after his 4 years suggests something is fundamentally wrong in what you’re viewing (based on the reasons you’ve given for voting him). And if that wasn’t enough, I’d hope you’d be sensible enough to, given what he’s done since the voting ended and the things he has said in the press, recognise that there is serious issues in the man and what he is saying.
Surely you can appreciate why you echoing the comments from above that @Giggs86 lives in a bubble would make it appear like this place, and this thread, is an echo chamber? It's a pretty consistent theme
I definitely know this thread and forum overall leans left and if I purely sought news and information from this forum and not from anywhere else, then I might be just as susceptible to falling into a bubble.
This place is definitely a left-leaning echo chamber. Although Trump being a lying huckster who should never have been allowed near the White House is a fundamental reality that should transcend these sort of biases.
I wouldn't say left-leaning. It is a far-left forum (current events).
I'd say we're aware of the right-wing arguments and what their commentators are saying though. We take in right-wing sources and refute them. Do Trump supporters do that too, or just assume it's fake news and not listen to it at all?
Lies. Into the gulag with you, comrade.
Oh definitely. I don’t for one moment think we’re as deluded as Trumpists. I also like to think we’re left-leaning because that’s the right thing to be. But I would think that, from my own echo chamber. It’s difficult to understand how crazy becomes normal if you spend long enough down the wrong rabbit hole.
This! that's why I find it very funny when right-wingers come into this forum and start spouting the "echo chamber" bs.
His 1st hand experience may not have statistical significance, but it may have significance for how it affects him and the area he lives in and his perception of events. That said, I dont know what he has witnessed, nor do I know which area he lives in and what's going on there and what's being reported there.
It's his democratic right to vote Trump and so did 69m others. There's no need to be a condescending asshat about it.
Trump voters and Brexiteers are a part of life we have to navigate.
Trump voters foisted Trump on us, and we aren't even allowed to be condescending?
Yeah but we don't have to smile and be polite to them despite them flinging an endless barrage of feces into our faces.
The earnest haranguing of someone who didn't vote the way you wanted to is kinda pointless three days after the election though.
“Earnest haranguing” - yeah, OK.
I'm up for closing this thread as soon as Biden is announced to be honest.
Just like wasps.
Trump Lame Orange Turtle. Please.
Maybe you're right. Although the Republicans have properly made their bed with Trumpism now - if he wants to run as red for 2024 they're pretty much at his mercy... unless he catches whatever shrivelled monkey paw curse Mitch seems to be afflicted with.No chance he runs as an independent. He will run as a Republican. He thinks it's his party and he's right.
Don't know how to say it but part of me wants something to happen to him between now and 2024.
Trump's saving grace is that he is a moron. If he wasn't, then he would have been genuinely dangerous.
Right, so the next time I vote I will just shut down the curtains at home and stop looking what happens outside in the city and the community I live in and form my opinion based on a far left forum with a majority of people who live thousands of miles away, who themselves form their opinions based on CNN and other far left echo chambers. Sound legit.
I think on this forum, we call out bullshit as bullshit, and can be critical of the failings of our own chosen political parties and/or figures within them. Trump supporters and conservatives hardly ever call out the wrongs and failings of their side and only ever come back with whataboutism while repeating debunked news stories.
CNN isn’t far left. If it’s far left of you personally, you’re probably a nazi.
