Thiago Alcantara | Signed for Bayern Munich

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Ok, so in those summers

Van Persie - Kagawa and Powell... major business done in June.
Tevez - Hargreaves, Anderson and Nani... major business done in June.
Berbatov - was the only signing that year (unless you count the Da Silva twins) and it was Levy and the bloke is an utter cnut and dragged it out for as long as he could.

So now lets look at 2011/12. Jones, Young and De Gea done in June.
2010/11 we'd even done our major business before the end of the previous season in Smalling and Hernandez.
2009/10 - Valencia in June and Michael Owen by 3rd July.

So I dispute the fact that we generally take a long time in the market. We don't... now obviously the uncertainty this year with the change in manager and his thoughts about the squad will affect it. I just fail to understand why we are being linked with so few players this time around cos whilst the club is not exactly vocal about our targets normally something slips out from agents or other clubs. Its very silent this year.

So all the big signings (RVP, Berbatov, Tevez) came late in the summer. Good signs
 
Ok, so in those summers

Van Persie - Kagawa and Powell... major business done in June.
Tevez - Hargreaves, Anderson and Nani... major business done in June.
Berbatov - was the only signing that year (unless you count the Da Silva twins) and it was Levy and the bloke is an utter cnut and dragged it out for as long as he could.

So now lets look at 2011/12. Jones, Young and De Gea done in June.
2010/11 we'd even done our major business before the end of the previous season in Smalling and Hernandez.
2009/10 - Valencia in June and Michael Owen by 3rd July.

So I dispute the fact that we generally take a long time in the market. We don't... now obviously the uncertainty this year with the change in manager and his thoughts about the squad will affect it. I just fail to understand why we are being linked with so few players this time around cos whilst the club is not exactly vocal about our targets normally something slips out from agents or other clubs. Its very silent this year.

We're not signing anyone this window :(
 
Sorry, I omitted the fact that he's ugly. You are far too pretty to be my real nemesis. Everytime I get really mad at you I just remember those smouldering eyes.


Aww. But I try really hard to say feck all in the floweriest possible language too. Sometimes I can get one point across in about 4 paragraphs.
 
But he wont get the games he craves there. Sure even Barca (Titso) have given him no guarantees about playin time - even tho he had a crackin U-21 Champs. Cant understand why they wouldnt play the lad - his youtubes are feckin awesome - do they not have the internets? :confused:


Of course they will play him, possibly as much as he want, but perhaps they don't want to get burned again with "giving guarantees". It's poor policy, top players don't need that sort of guarantee unless they're planning on slagging off and it's poor policy to give that much power to players in detriment of managers:

"I know it's the most important game of the season and he's been shit for a few weeks now, but you have to use him. His price will drop from 80m to 15m if he doesn't play 60 minutes tonight".
 
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    Xavi has personally talked to Thiago in the last 48 hours to stay at Barca could be a big big game changer for thiago. #mufc #barca

That's a very long talk. Does Thiago wear a ref's attire?
 
Manchester United could be forced to wait for Thiago, and Barcelona players try to make him stay


Barcelona appear to have all but given up hope, and even the Catalan media seem to think it's a matter of when and not if, but Barcelona's players are still holding out hope of keeping Thiago. Today's Mundo Deportivo has two separate pieces which contain references to senior players at Barcelona having a word with the youngster to convince him that his future is at the Camp Nou and not in Manchester.
Mundo pick out Xavi as being the main one and say that the player has been the most insistent that Thiago stays at Barcelona, telling him that he struggled to get into the team at an early age but then went on to achieve great things with the club. Xavi told Thiago a few days ago, presumably whilst he was still on holiday, that he sees him as his successor in the midfield and thinks he can achieve similar throughout his career.
Xavi isn't the only one, Puyol has done a lengthy interview with Mundo Deportivo today and was obviously asked about the future of Thiago and what he thought would happen. The club captain said "I love him and hopefully he won't leave. I don't know what will happen. He's a spectacular player with a great future."
The key for Barcelona and Thiago is patience but the midfielder appears to have run out of it and the club aren't doing anything huge to change his mind, much to the frustration of supporters. Fans are angry that he had this clause to begin with and also annoyed that, given the club knew about the clause, that they didn't make sure he played the required minutes considering they walked their way to the title.
The other Barcelona entrenched newspaper Sport yesterday had a video interview with one of their journalists which was trying to placate supporters and he said that the clause doesn't matter, it's Thiago's will to stay or leave which matters, trying to put the emphasis of any 'blame' on the player. It didn't really work, and he got replies asking that if clauses don't matter then why doesn't Lionel Messi have one for the same amount.
Mundo say that Thiago isn't due for pre-season medical tests until July 15th so nothing imminent needs to happen. All the Spanish sport newspapers carry the ESPN claims that Manchester United could wish to unveil him as soon as this Friday but if the Catalan newspaper are correct then there's no rush on Thiago's side because he wouldn't be facing an awkward return to the Barcelona squad until the week after.
That could benefit Manchester United too, even it could drag on longer than they'd like, the last thing they'd want is for him to return to Barcelona training this week and realise that he didn't want to leave the set-up. The last constant day to day peer pressure he had was probably from David de Gea and whilst contact from Xavi and others is one thing, being back with the squad again would be quite another.
Thiago may have run out of patience with Barcelona but Manchester Untied fans may have to show a little patience themselves, there's no rush forced on the player's side given that he's not due back for 12 days.
 
Lets get the team ready and they can all go to Thiagos home with the contract to persuade him to come.
 
Who's the player that Xavi and Iniesta claim is the best? Scholes. Listen to them, Thiago. The "new Scholes" > "new Xavi."
 
Barcelona have always used their players as negotiating devices. Doubt it's the last we'll hear from the likes of Xavi.
 
Barcelona have always used their players as negotiating devices. Doubt it's the last we'll hear from the likes of Xavi.

He should shut up and realise he might well get pushed out of the team by him!
 
I remember BBC had an interview with Pique and they asked him about Bale, the question was along the lines of how do you think his seasons gone. Pique immediately answered with stating how great Bale would be at Barcelona, without even being asked. It's just how the Barcelona players operate, they're clever negotiating tools.
 
If Xavi wants Thiago to stay then Xavi should asked Tito to bench him seeing as it would greatly help Thiago. He wants him to stay but at the same time just to spend more time on the bench.
 
Barcelona have always used their players as negotiating devices. Doubt it's the last we'll hear from the likes of Xavi.


As it should be, obviously. It'll be interesting, like I've said, whether the key players at the club are able to convince him to stay. Fans will be mad about the clause and question Tito's use of him but will to fight for the shirt resonates loudly at a big club. Most of the current cantera players easily fall into that category so pressure to stay isn't often publicized because it isn't needed. So if he still goes, the details of the transfer won't matter as it'll be about if he's a culé

More out than in atm, IMHO
 
But what could Xavi say to convince him though, if his desire for more game time is really as great as it's being touted? "Be patient, I'll probably only still be here for like 3 years, then you can have your chance after, you know you've got no chance of breaking into the national team next year anyways, might as well wait"
 
But what could Xavi say to convince him though, if his desire for more game time is really as great as it's being touted? "Be patient, I'll probably only still be here for like 3 years, then you can have your chance after, you know you've got no chance of breaking into the national team next year anyways, might as well wait"


A lot of the current squad players and down into the cantera idolized Pep who was a cantera ballboy that eventually went on to become club captain, winning coach and legend. Xavi is considered in the same mold. For cantera players, it's the equivalent of one of the gods annointing you. If you're a culé, this sort of talk convinces you. If not, you walk. It's not Bilbao that will hold you prisoner and force you to dart away in the middle of the night. Even if they could stop a transfer like this, they wouldn't for someone who wanted to go
 
More out than in atm, IMHO
I'd agree with you, as of now. How quickly he can come to a decision and two clubs finalise any deal will have a major effect. If Barcelona are persistent enough, they may find a way to drag their heels, elongating any transfer enough for the original buyout clause to resurface.
 
Well, if he's truly on vacation for 12 more days, then no, I don't think we'll hear anything confirmed during that time. A move of this magnitude would necessitate an early fly back for a live exchange. Minute he's on the move will obviously signal the transfer. Longer it carries on, probably more ThiagOFF
 
A lot of the current squad players and down into the cantera idolized Pep who was a cantera ballboy that eventually went on to become club captain, winning coach and legend. Xavi is considered in the same mold. For cantera players, it's the equivalent of one of the gods annointing you. If you're a culé, this sort of talk convinces you. If not, you walk. It's not Bilbao that will hold you prisoner and force you to dart away in the middle of the night. Even if they could stop a transfer like this, they wouldn't for someone who wanted to go



fecking Johnny foreigners.
 
Is it true that he's away for another 12 days? Given that the deal needs to be done before 1st August, that's a bit of a hammer blow to our hopes.

And Graham Hunter can feck off with this shit about talks moving in the right direction. Are our guys negotiating via pigeon or something? I refuse to believe this length of talks is needed to decipher whether he will come here or not.
 
Is it true that he's away for another 12 days? Given that the deal needs to be done before 1st August, that's a bit of a hammer blow to our hopes.

And Graham Hunter can feck off with this shit about talks moving in the right direction. Are our guys negotiating via pigeon or something? I refuse to believe this length of talks is needed to decipher whether he will come here or not.

Then you require some patience. Did you know negotiations sometimes start months in advance?
 
Is it true that he's away for another 12 days? Given that the deal needs to be done before 1st August, that's a bit of a hammer blow to our hopes.

And Graham Hunter can feck off with this shit about talks moving in the right direction. Are our guys negotiating via pigeon or something? I refuse to believe this length of talks is needed to decipher whether he will come here or not.


And that's only for the clause. Ideally, I'm sure we'd want the deal sealed before next wednesday so he can get a pre-season under his belt. He's got to get used to Rio's longballs afterall.
 
If it's just a case of Barcelona stalling so as to enact the €90m buyout clause on 1st August then they should worry about the legal implications of their actions.
 
how much is there really to sort?

Do we want him? Yes
Can we agree a fee? By all accounts there is a clause, so yes
Can we agree terms with him? Shouldn't be hard so yes.

Does he want to come here? Bloody decide either way!
 
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