Told you new day would drop the titles
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
I would of liked them to keep them for longer and make it a huge event when they drop them like Wrestlemania.
Anyone else feel like this was the moment Charlotte vs Sasha officially jumped the shark? People in the crowd didn't even seem bothered towards the end.
See i think they are obviously heading towards a KO vs Jericho program. How ever would of expected it to be KO winning against Reigns, and then bragging he didn't need Jericho. I loved KO, but his run with the title has been crap and it's far to similar to Rollins run of having J&J or various Authority members save him.
This is exactly it. I don't understand, or appreciate the notion that a heel must always win through cheating. Its really daft and a reason why I think Miz has been overhyped. Yeah he's great on the mic and in the ring as he works the crowd, but if he wins every time by cheating then you just don't value his credibility and his persona is somewhat devalued.
Great heels would cheat sometimes, and win clean to maintain their worth and competence every so often. Having KO win dirty every time after seeing heel Rollins win dirty every time and Miz doing the same is so fecking boring.
They could have had KO win clean, celebrate and have Jericho give him the codebreaker after the match. That would give a great new fued into Wrestlemania.
I haven't watched the womens match yesterday but if I'm not mistaken, Charlotte won the sudden death clean as a whistle, and that will probably make the crowd hate her more with frustration. I would see Charlotte as a credible heel whilst still being worthy of the belt as a result. I can't see Miz as an Intercontinental Champion though because he wins dirty every time. He's just a book definition of a heel and little more.
Raw storylines are so poorly booked it hurts to watch. They have found a way to ruin the women's division with hot potatoeing the title.
Heel champions have always played the cowardly heel role at times, because it helps make the face look strong.
The problem is that there is no balance.
Look at HHH back in the day. Acted cowardly a lot of the time, with lots of corporation backup, but he was also made to look like a machine and destroyed opponents. KO would be perfect for that.
The problem is that there is no balance.
Look at HHH back in the day. Acted cowardly a lot of the time, with lots of corporation backup, but he was also made to look like a machine and destroyed opponents. KO would be perfect for that.
This Cesaro/Sheamus tag team has been a real adventure so far. Good thing they won the titles, the story they made out of it was pretty good. Clever finish to the match too.
Strowman looked good, I was a bit worried that he would not be able to hang, but they did well. Liking him more and more each week. Kinda with I would get so much praise for lasting 10 minutes though.
GOD feckING YES NEVILLE GOING FOR THE CRUISERWEIGHTS?!!!!! feckING FINALLY. I am such a huge Neville mark, make him a fecking cocky heel
Sasha bleeding made that match, thought it was a very good Iron man match. The no rematch clause means we can get some movement in the division now yes? Crowd clearly could not be arsed about the match that much.
Quite liked the Reigns/Owens match too, bit slow paced at times but that's fine. That Jericho interference was a cop out, but at least it was fecking funny to see them celebrate afterwards.
Strowman looked good, I was a bit worried that he would not be able to hang, but they did well. Liking him more and more each week. Kinda with I would get so much praise for lasting 10 minutes though.
GOD feckING YES NEVILLE GOING FOR THE CRUISERWEIGHTS?!!!!! feckING FINALLY. I am such a huge Neville mark, make him a fecking cocky heel
Sasha bleeding made that match, thought it was a very good Iron man match. The no rematch clause means we can get some movement in the division now yes? Crowd clearly could not be arsed about the match that much.
Quite liked the Reigns/Owens match too, bit slow paced at times but that's fine. That Jericho interference was a cop out, but at least it was fecking funny to see them celebrate afterwards.
Does Chris Jericho ever win a match? Since I've started watching again, all he has done is lose fights.
Pissed off!
Did an accumulator (£5) and predicted every match correct. Problem was, Mick fecking Foley didn't make it clear that if the Zayn/Stowman match finished without a winner (which i knew it would) that Zayn would be the winner.
I assumed Strowman would be the winner, because the whole point was that Zayn had to beat Strowman in the 10mins.
So WWE not clearing that up has cost me over a hundred pissing quid
Did an accumulator (£5) and predicted every match correct. Problem was, Mick fecking Foley didn't make it clear that if the Zayn/Stowman match finished without a winner (which i knew it would) that Zayn would be the winner.
I assumed Strowman would be the winner, because the whole point was that Zayn had to beat Strowman in the 10mins.
So WWE not clearing that up has cost me over a hundred pissing quid
To be fair they did say that Sammy had to survive, implying that Braun wouldn't be winner after 10 minutes.
They literally never once said Zayn had to beat him, he just had to survive.
They've circled around a few times already, jumping the shark and beating a dead horse at the same time is quite impressive.
Either way, they should have clarified it. The rules were in no way clear.
Zayn being the winner was stupid imo. He was the one who demanded the match, so he shouldn't have had the major advantage
I'm so sharp.
I still am in a little bit of shock as of how to screw up something so simple between two of the most talented females we have seen in a brick. Can't watch them on Raw any more.
Neville in the cruiserwieghts, tag titles, and zayn booking were the only positives last night. Think I might start watching 205 live now.
Only against AJ Styles at Wrestlemania for some reason
PPV seemed like more weird and confusing booking. Probably some good wrestling in there but I can't be arsed to watch it and I'm sure I'm not really missing out. It always baffles me when they seem to try everything to avoid telling simple stories and instead end up with a complete mess. If Charlotte was the one to come out of this feud with the belt, then fine, just don't have her lose it three fecking times. I'm guessing I'm supposed to feel like there was so little between the two that neither one could hold onto the belt that long and that this was an epic feud with a HIAC and ended in an Ironman match. Instead I got taken out of it with the weird booking, Charlotte winning the big matches and that weird fling with Bayley they had for like two weeks. Bayley/Sasha felt more epic and major, this one felt muddled.
Thats the thing, the wrestling is always good but then you think, wtf is happening when they do something with the result or the story.
I get they wanna show that Charlotte and Sasha are on equal footing, but it seems like they were just having Sasha win normal matches on Raw so that Charlotte (Flair) could win the "First ever..." whatever.
Either that, or theyre trying to make her a 16 time champ.
Also I think they made a mistake with Rollins. When he returned, thats when he should have been the face straight away.
I get they wanna show that Charlotte and Sasha are on equal footing, but it seems like they were just having Sasha win normal matches on Raw so that Charlotte (Flair) could win the "First ever..." whatever.
Either that, or theyre trying to make her a 16 time champ.
Also I think they made a mistake with Rollins. When he returned, thats when he should have been the face straight away.
I think they're accidentally showing WCW2000 footage.....
If I ever hear Sasha say "We made history" again, it'll be too soon.
That was cringworthy from Jax, right idea to start afresh with a new feud but gosh that was awful.
Shame they didn't have her do a Kharma style thing, just come in, crush Banks and leave without saying a single word.
My thoughts exactly, it was almost as if the moment she opened her mouth, her credibility as an imposing heel escaped along with her cringe worthy one liners.
Fecking hell, Big E! 
Big E had the best line of the night.
But once Shining Stars came out, I had to change it to the NFL (will probably watch on ffwd tomorrow).
But once Shining Stars came out, I had to change it to the NFL (will probably watch on ffwd tomorrow).
Neville has me cracking up, it is a good change up nevertheless
His kicks and stomps looked stiff as feck.
Jericho is gold, "a sexy pinata".Bayley has to cut that spin out. its starting to looking really annoying.
How?
Neville looks like he has such a huge chip on his shoulder now. I'm probably getting worked (brother), but he looks like he wants to prove that they fecked up with not having him in the CWC or the Cruiser-weights from the get go. I want him to be the Cruiser-weight version of Brock Lesnar, a dominant fecker that rules the division.
Raw was terrible. Really hard to watch at the moment. Roll on the Royal Rumble.
Oh look it's the annual Roman Reigns push. 
I don't even bother with watching Raw anymore, bit too busy. I'll just read the results and only catch the PPV's and Smackdown.
Its even worse considering how everything was set up after that show stealing WM match.
I hate the Raw creative team(Of which Vince is a significant part of)
TBH, the CWs have been boring on Raw as well. Except the ring ropes and shaking the hands, they havent really stood out. The crowds have been mild. Hopefully Neville can save that.
When was the last PPV that didn't have Rollins or Reigns in a world championship match
TLC...
But seriously, before that, it was Roadblock, in March (if that can be counted), Fastlane before that (no title match on the card, Reigns was in the number 1 contenders match).
So the last actual PPV with a World title match on the card, which didn't involve Rollins or Reigns, was Night of Champions 2014, Cena vs Lesnar.