Sylar
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Because in wrestling, you are meant to suspend belief and sometimes logic.
It's not really a big deal, only within the magical world of kayfabe is it a big deal.Why is the undertaker's record at Wrestle mania such a big deal? Every 'win' he's had has been scripted. So why is it a big achievement? You might say that he's only scripted to win because he's the crowd's favourite but techinically his 'unbeaten streak' is a complete farce. I might be naive about all things wrestling but I've never understood the complete w.ankfest over his so called record.
Someone explain to me how his "streak" is in anyway an actual achievement? Let's face it, if the writers decide, they can end that streak anytime they liked.
Part of it is that he's such a revered figure both in the ring and behind the scenes that the writers have chosen not to end the streak. I remember reading a rumour that Randy Orton was supposed to end the streak at 12 as part of his Legend Killer persona but he actually refused to out of respect.Why is the undertaker's record at Wrestle mania such a big deal? Every 'win' he's had has been scripted. So why is it a big achievement? You might say that he's only scripted to win because he's the crowd's favourite but techinically his 'unbeaten streak' is a complete farce. I might be naive about all things wrestling but I've never understood the complete w.ankfest over his so called record.
Someone explain to me how his "streak" is in anyway an actual achievement? Let's face it, if the writers decide, they can end that streak anytime they liked.
As a die hard Kings fan, I remember this moment vividly, even though I wasn't watching WWE on a regular basis at the time. They were taping Raw at Arco Arena and I was listening to sports radio (on the Kings' flagship station) at the time and someone had called in to the show from the event live. They stopped talking to listen in just as this was happening:one of my fave Rocks was when he became a heel AGAIN, after they booed him at Wrestlemania vs Hogan
his concerts to wind up the fans was hilarious and his feud with the hurricane
He missed the first one completely and the second one he just dropped off. Fair enough it's a big drop but the floor obviously wasn't proper wood. Was never a fan of his, especially that entrance where he be skipping around like a clown.Shane McMahon is one of my favs ever.
I'm pretty sure he was an enforcer backstage back in the day. When it wasn't a big deal to give a superstar a few backhands for being a cnut.TBH, I've never read of anything negative regarding Undertaker. I remember the time he got eliminated from the Royal Rumble by a young thing called Maven. Taker knows how to put young guys over.
Easily the most charismatic wrestler you'll see.The great one
Kane was by far my favourite. That mask was so cool, and the fact that he was near invincible. Then once he started to interact and eventually dropped the mask he became a whipping post. His inital feud with Undertaker was great.
Any video?The way he is taking the piss out of Cena is just fantastic.
Fair point. But it's not like he was taking over his dads reins or anything. He had a chance to be a part of something big and took the chance because he had a fasttrack to it. I guess I can't blame him in that regard. If I had the chance to feud with Cena I'd kick him square in the balls and take a real chair to his headGive shane mcmahon his dues, if I was vince's son, I'd be too busy counting the money to go jumping off things.
I think you mean this guy.WWE is nothing till they bring back Goldberg.
Nothing, I say!
I like Kane's, but that's only because he follows up one with another and another on a rampage. That said I haven't studied them closely or anything, but it just seems like Undertaker's is technically better.Ok a question:
Who had the better chokeslam, Undertaker or Kane?
I prefer Kanes for the reason you gave. They also seem way more psychotic, which is the reason I like Kane in the first place. Just doesn't give a shit likeI like Kane's, but that's only because he follows up one with another and another on a rampage. That said I haven't studied them closely or anything, but it just seems like Undertaker's is technically better.
No no, I'd imagine they've grasped it's not real by that age.Fantastic.
Look if you dont understand, you dont understand so I wont blame you for it. But nobody who posted here comes across as one of the kids you're talking about, who see it as a real thing. Everyone is posting from behind the curtain and talking about whats going beyond behind the scenes in the industry or their favourite times when they were younger and WWE was better.
Its not okay to look at it and think "Well I think it would be better like this"? Or to appreciate the athletisism of some of the things they are able to do at times? Or have a chuckle at some of the bad acting and feckups - I'm sure you've never ever had a chuckle at someone doing some really bad acting or messing something up
I guess if you talk about the animation industry you're a loser too. Afterall these days most of it is clearly aimed at kids.
I'd choose to watch mma over it 10/10 but the few times it isnt boring a year, this can be entertaining too.
To be fair he had only started the Kane persona shortly before that clip. It's only normal to do it two handed when you're starting out so as to not injure anyone accidentally. Undertaker was doing it for 7 years before Kane.Edit: Now that I think about it, Kane seems to have to use the second hand a bit too much.
I always wonder whether that was legit or scripted. Thats a lot of weight coming down
Yeah JR screaming THEY'VE KILLED HIM when Mankind hit the Spanish announce table (which they need to bring back because that thing got destroyed about every other week) added to the wonder of that incident..It was planned. Big Show didn't want to do it because it's such a stupid idea and they wouldn't even bother doing it if it wasn't planned like that, but yeah, like when people go "through" the ring with chokeslams, you can see them looking around before the fight making the ring is setup right for it.
They also don't always tell the commentators everything, since they also have to sell the surprise and if they know...well they can't sell it as well sometimes.
I'm sure I read somewhere that JR actually asked not to be told about the major happenings, so he could react to them as a fan.It wouldn't really be wise for the company to not tell the commentators what was planned, after all it's the commentators job to keep the story alive.
The real parts are seriously dodgy all the sameThe best feckups
Brock had actually been doing the shooting star for a while, just rarely in the wwe. And with this feckup almost breaking his neck, and killing Angle, from this point on he was banned from using it.
Albeit Shockmaster was WCW, its absolutely legendary
Honestly, how some people can say wrestling isnt real
Trish Stratus....god knows how many teenage socks were filled over her
Who cares about sweaty men