I mean in the sense of being a true giant of the game. Arsenal have I think 13 leagues, and most Fa cup wins etc, and I've always seen them as a big club.
I think a majority of united fans would prefer you to win it however, during the 90s you were our biggest rivals in terms of actually taking trophies from us. It was a brilliant rivalry in the 90s. Fergie vs wenger. Keane vs viera. Ronaldo vs Henry (widely regarded as the two greatest players to play in the prem). The special matches we played…
9 actually and as for era defining teams - how many teams actually have that, 3 maybe in English football
That's still really not that impressive and clubs like Everton and Spurs had far more trophies/pedigree before the City takeover, and that's not mentioning the huge clubs like United, Liverpool, and even Arsenal. It's also worth remembering City have often been up and down the divisions.
So have United and Liverpool were freqiuntly a 2nd division team until Shankley, if you're going to make claims on historic levels you need to go back to the start
3 league titles before their takeover, their most recent being in the 60s, absolute nothing club.
Spurs must be a nothing club as well then
Spurs have a decent haul of cups. 8 FA cups,4 league cups and 3 UEFA/CWCs.
Yeah but they have less titles than City which was the criteria in the post
Well yeah but we didn't need City to highlight that.
They were a bigger club than City with almost double the trophies and have been an ever present in the PL era. City were never a huge club. The original post was me saying Arsenal were a historic club and by that I mean they've always been viewed as a big club with a proud history. City were not on their level pre-takeover. That's obvious and there's nothing to argue.
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2 league titles actually
Oh yeah, turns out I'm an idiot and can't read. There we go, both clubs are equally shite.
Not at Arsenal's level no, but that doesn't not make them a historic big club, do you consider teams like Aston Villa, Nottingham Forest, Sheffield Wednesday not to be historic big clubs?
Well those have actually won a champions league/european cup ...something of which City STILL haven't achieved despite spending billions
Arsenal haven't eitherWell those have actually won a champions league/european cup ...something of which City STILL haven't achieved despite spending billions
Can you ever remember playing West Ham away , end of season where you’re in line to win the title?Perhaps against my better judgement I've looked at our fixture list for the rest of the season in terms of league games and there's not really any cluster of games that I would worry are really tricky. Obviously teams drop silly points (like against Leeds and Palace) but it's good not to have a daunting run of several big teams away from home. Anfield looks the nastiest game by far and that's our next league fixture. Away games to Spurs and Newcastle and Chelsea at home aren't that intimidating and our last 4 games in May are:
West Ham (a)
Wolves (h)
Bournemouth (a)
Fulham (h)
Not really formidable on paper. Believe?
Please don't remind me
See, this where looking ahead like that is dangerous. There's 3 of those clubs could easily be in a relegation battle fighting for their lives. Not to mention injuries suspensions, and the real prospect for you guys playing Europa League semi final games during that period. I make the same mistake myself, you can't help but look ahead at the fixture list, but it tends to come back to bite you on the arse.Perhaps against my better judgement I've looked at our fixture list for the rest of the season in terms of league games and there's not really any cluster of games that I would worry are really tricky. Obviously teams drop silly points (like against Leeds and Palace) but it's good not to have a daunting run of several big teams away from home. Anfield looks the nastiest game by far and that's our next league fixture. Away games to Spurs and Newcastle and Chelsea at home aren't that intimidating and our last 4 games in May are:
West Ham (a)
Wolves (h)
Bournemouth (a)
Fulham (h)
Not really formidable on paper. Believe?
If they’re in a relegation fight come the end of the season that means they’re losing a lot of games.
Agree with this, you can drop points anywhere, just have to enjoy each game at a time.
True, but how many times do you see 1 or 2 teams put together a run of 3 or 4 good results to pull themselves out of trouble at the business end of the season. Think Everton last season who managed to beat Utd, Chelsea, Leicester and Palace in a period last season that pulled them out of trouble.
That's not last day though and it's against a West Ham side that look dreadful this season but who probably won't be in a relegation battle (still think they will be fine even though they're in trouble at the moment).
They're 5pts ahead with a game in hand, still a bit difficult to grasp. We should just regret we couldn't beat Leeds home.
Until the next game when it’s back on again? This in out in again attitude is a little dumb. There’s still so many games to go. We should still be looking at squads not league position and it’s obvious we don’t have the best squad, hence why we won’t win the league.
Should have been Stone Cold Steve Austen.
I would say , I can't wait for it....but I can't......I can't handle City winning this year. And sadly I bet they have 80% chance.
