Hasn't it been mentioned that his leg was clearly out of shape?
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Jonas Olsson passes on best wishes to Cleverley
Apr 6 2010 by Christopher Lepkowski, Birmingham Mail
JONAS Olsson admitted the joy of Albion’s late equaliser was tempered by Tom Cleverley’s injury.
The Watford player suffered a bad leg injury after colliding with the Albion vice-captain.
He was treated for some time on the pitch and was given oxygen as he was carried off.
Although Olsson wasn’t to blame for the incident, he admitted the injury troubled him.
“It’s never nice to be involved in an injury like that,” he said.
“Everyone who saw the tackle will know it wasn’t intentional. He got the ball away from me, I slid to get the ball, he ran in and we got tangled up.
“I hope it’s not bad but it does get to you when something like that happens.
“I do feel heartbroken for the lad and I wish him all the best.”
Olsson was pleased with Albion’s late equaliser, scored by Chris Brunt.
The Northern Ireland man, who scored Albion’s promotion-clinching goal two years ago, was overcome by his strike, which came in the fifth minute of injury time.
Centre-half Olsson said; “We got the equaliser which obviously we’re happy about.
“It’s a good point and it’s important we keep going. It was a good finish for the goal and we’re happy to have scored.
“We’ve scored in every game of 2010 so it’s good to maintain that record.”
Apr 6 2010 by Christopher Lepkowski, Birmingham Mail
JONAS Olsson admitted the joy of Albion’s late equaliser was tempered by Tom Cleverley’s injury.
The Watford player suffered a bad leg injury after colliding with the Albion vice-captain.
He was treated for some time on the pitch and was given oxygen as he was carried off.
Although Olsson wasn’t to blame for the incident, he admitted the injury troubled him.
“It’s never nice to be involved in an injury like that,” he said.
“Everyone who saw the tackle will know it wasn’t intentional. He got the ball away from me, I slid to get the ball, he ran in and we got tangled up.
“I hope it’s not bad but it does get to you when something like that happens.
“I do feel heartbroken for the lad and I wish him all the best.”
Olsson was pleased with Albion’s late equaliser, scored by Chris Brunt.
The Northern Ireland man, who scored Albion’s promotion-clinching goal two years ago, was overcome by his strike, which came in the fifth minute of injury time.
Centre-half Olsson said; “We got the equaliser which obviously we’re happy about.
“It’s a good point and it’s important we keep going. It was a good finish for the goal and we’re happy to have scored.
“We’ve scored in every game of 2010 so it’s good to maintain that record.”
You don't see that enough in football sadly but always nice to hear.
The bit about him not going to hospital probably means they didn't think he'd broken his leg. I guess that leaves cruciates as the most likely injury, which could keep him out just as long, if not longer.
Fecking sucks that both Anderson and Cleverley may miss pre-season training. I was really hoping they would both be important players for us next season. What a shit end to a shit week.
Fecking sucks that both Anderson and Cleverley may miss pre-season training. I was really hoping they would both be important players for us next season. What a shit end to a shit week.
Cant find any sort of update on the watford forums. Hopefully no news is good news.
If they're suspecting knee ligament damage (e.g. cruciates) they'll probably want the swelling to go down before doing a proper assessment, including an MRI. This can take a day or two.
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Ah well, there's always a bit of humour.
He'll probably be at the final match for Watford even if in the stands for a proper sending-off. Cathcart got one even though he was injured last season.
Ah well, there's always a bit of humour.
He'll probably be at the final match for Watford even if in the stands for a proper sending-off. Cathcart got one even though he was injured last season.
If he's actually as good, then next season could well be a break through one for him
Don't tell peterstorey.If he's actually as good, then next season could well be a break through one for him
Apparently the knee is still too swollen for assessment. He's still being iced and getting around on crutches.
Still awaiting some firmer news of the injury.
Still awaiting some firmer news of the injury.
According to the Watford Observer's Twitter, they should have news tomorrow (today).
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Have heard it's not as bad as first feared, which is encouraging if true.
Any news?
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Can someone shed any light on what this might mean? Pogue?
Same ligament (on opposite side of knee) to what Scholes damaged a season (or two?) ago. Happened early on in a European away, very early in the season. I think he was out for a couple of months?
All depends on how badly the ligament is damaged though.
All depends on how badly the ligament is damaged though.
Generally speaking, I think LCL injuries tend to be less serious than ACL injuries.
They don't need surgery for a start.
Fantastic! So the smart money is on him being ready for pre-season, or could we still be talking >3 months?
Couldn't be less of a medical expert, but I'd guess there are varying severities for LCL injuries (just as there are for ACL/MCL) so he could be back in a few weeks or a few months. Hopefully we might hear something from United, I'd assume he'll be coming back (if he hasn't been back already) for assessment/treatment at Carrington.
Yeah. Did a bit of googling and it seems as though if it's a total tear surgery may be needed and in that case full recovery can take up to a few months.
FWIW, I've never heard of someone injuring their LCL/MCL so badly they needed surgery without popping at least one of their cruciates too.
I'm a long way short of being an expert on this sort of thing so I'll wait for the official word like everyone else.
I'm a long way short of being an expert on this sort of thing so I'll wait for the official word like everyone else.
It seems that Cleverley was in a similar position to Oliver Gill in that he only started training at United full time after finishing his A-Levels so that might account for his rapid improvement over the last few years (his progress has surprised quite a few regular Academy/Reserve watchers).
That's a point, datura. Wasn't he also injured for an entire season a few years back?
I'm pretty sure he was, and I'd definitely agree with datura. He's one of those who was on and off the radar quite a bit, the most memorable match I think I remember of him and one which really propelled him into my thoughts was a home Reserves match where he scored two brilliant goals against Bolton. He was brilliant in that match and played right-wing, saw him play right across the midfield before that too.
He missed an awful lot of his first two years through injury, as well as not being full-time. Think the most surprising thing was the change in position - it was quite well known at the time that he was still studying so some improvement would be expected (like we've seen from Gill), but there wasn't much to suggest he was going to become a goalscoring, creative attacking midfielder.
Have heard from someone who claimed to have been at the Watford end of season awards that h Tom himself claims he will be on crutches for 6 weeks and out for around 3 months - perfect for the start of next season .
I have to say though, I can't vouch for the accuracy of these claims in any way.
.I have to say though, I can't vouch for the accuracy of these claims in any way.
Perfect? Hardly that. There's rehab to be considered plus time to get back into match fitness, and let's pray there are no long term effects to his speed etc.Have heard from someone who claimed to have been at the Watford end of season awards that h Tom himself claims he will be on crutches for 6 weeks and out for around 3 months - perfect for the start of next season
I have to say though, I can't vouch for the accuracy of these claims in any way.
What would be perfect is that he didn't get a serious injury in the first place
Does sound like he's got off relatively fortunately though, given how it looked at the time. If it's nearer the six weeks end of that timescale then he'll have another month to hopefully get ready for pre-season, so you'd hope he'd be involved. Even three months means he'd be back in some sort of training in mid-July.
He won Player of the Year at those awards btw.
He won Player of the Year at those awards btw.
meh.....
Newcastle eyeing Man Utd winger Cleverley
04.05.10 | tribalfootball.com
Newcastle United are tracking Manchester United winger Tom Cleverley.
The Sunday Sun says Toon boss Chris Hughton is hopeful next season’s Premier League squad cap can help him land Manchester United’s Cleverley.
Each top-flight club’s first-team squad will be limited to 25 players in 2010/11, with eight of those being homegrown.
However, “homegrown” means any player who has been at the club for three years or more, of whom Manchester United has more than plenty.
Newcastle eyeing Man Utd winger Cleverley
04.05.10 | tribalfootball.com
Newcastle United are tracking Manchester United winger Tom Cleverley.
The Sunday Sun says Toon boss Chris Hughton is hopeful next season’s Premier League squad cap can help him land Manchester United’s Cleverley.
Each top-flight club’s first-team squad will be limited to 25 players in 2010/11, with eight of those being homegrown.
However, “homegrown” means any player who has been at the club for three years or more, of whom Manchester United has more than plenty.
Classic tribalbollocks. It's a minimum of eight that have to be homegrown, we could have all 25 being homegrown if we wanted so us having 'more than plenty' is irrelevant. Even more pertinently, Cleverley should be exempt from the squad cap next season anyway as he was U21 on 1.1.2010.
apparently newcastle have no transfer budget
oh and from a lansbury thread on watford forums
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oh and from a lansbury thread on watford forums
i miss scholes' free kick ability
Maybe it's just typical "twisting of words"?
Newcastle do need investment but compared with relegation sides in the past not as much - Nolan-Barton would be a solid midfield for a lower-mid-table team, for example.
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Newcastle do need investment but compared with relegation sides in the past not as much - Nolan-Barton would be a solid midfield for a lower-mid-table team, for example.
Nolan has looked slow and immobile even this season, and more so in recent Premiership seasons. His best performances have been from behind a striker. They do have Guthrie (and Smith
) but they definitely need another capable Premiership midfielder. Especially with Barton' injury record.Obviously they won't be buying Cleverly though.
apparently newcastle want him and welbeck on loan
guaranteed first team football ?
i think cleverley (if he recovers from his injury) will be involved in the preseason tour
nani,tosic in the WC , valencia injured == obertan , park , giggs , cleverley our wide players
guaranteed first team football ?
i think cleverley (if he recovers from his injury) will be involved in the preseason tour
nani,tosic in the WC , valencia injured == obertan , park , giggs , cleverley our wide players
Newcastle should never get another player, who we feel has a future with us, on loan.
I concur.
Besides I'd like him to be here. He'd get plenty of chances in the Carling Cup and may be the FA Cup. We can loan him out in Jan if we want to.
Normally I would agree - but I think the way Hughton has handled the team indicates that they actually learned something. No more fancy stars - just a bunch of hard-working footballers and a manager who seem to be doing something right
A relegation scrap side is no place for on loan youngsters IMO. Unless they are keepers or defenders.
Got a feeling he will be better used than Rossi was.
Cleverley would be a much-needed source of creativity and pace for that Newcastle side so he will get chances.
Less sure about Welbeck - they need a proven striker, not (another) kid (Carroll).
Less sure about Welbeck - they need a proven striker, not (another) kid (Carroll).
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