At that time we didn't know draw was enough. We needed win as City were one point ahead after 36 games, they drew vs Arsenal so they were 2 points ahead having played 37th game. So when we played West Ham we needed win.A draw would have been enough in 2016 against West Ham. Didn't go well.
We don’t need to beat Leicester or West Ham.We should beat West Ham, even with our shocking tiredness, but I can't see us beating Leicester Hope I'm wrong
Since they came back, Wolves played Chelsea 2 times, results are 1 win, 1 draw and 1 loss. Somehow Chelsea are Wolves' bogey team?Chelsea will draw with Liverpool and beat Wolves on the final day. We are Wolves bogey team and theyre not in the best of forms to take a win from us.
I dont understand how everyone look at Leicester as some pushover. They pressed Spurs quite good and had some decent chances.We should beat West Ham, even with our shocking tiredness, but I can't see us beating Leicester Hope I'm wrong
Not comparable at all. That West Ham side was a different beast. Payet was pulling rabbits out of the hat every game. They were fighting for Europe and more importantly it was the last ever game at Upton Park, the ground was buzzing and it was pretty much their cup final. We couldn't buy a goal at the time either so I'm not sure how we managed to score twice.A draw would have been enough in 2016 against West Ham. Didn't go well.
Draw wouldn't have been enough anyway. City would have beaten Swansea on the final day if they needed to.At that time we didn't know draw was enough. We needed win as City were one point ahead after 36 games, they drew vs Arsenal so they were 2 points ahead having played 37th game. So when we played West Ham we needed win.
I think its one of those where fluke 1-0's are always prone to happening so its nice to not be freaking out if its a tied game late on. And Leicester are a good side despite the form so you don't want to get fecked over!People do make me laugh... 5-0 win against West Ham to allow us to lose 2-0 to leicester...
If we hit form enough beat West Ham 5-0... we're not losing 2-0 to Leicester 4 days later
Yeah I meant after final table, with hindsight draw was enough but at that time we didnt know that.Draw wouldn't have been enough anyway. City would have beaten Swansea on the final day if they needed to.
Leicester have 3 of their back 4 out, have Maddison out, and even have their 2nd choice left back out.I dont understand how everyone look at Leicester as some pushover. They pressed Spurs quite good and had some decent chances.
We have seen how well we cope with high press lately.
Logic would suggest not, but football doesn't always work to logic.People do make me laugh... 5-0 win against West Ham to allow us to lose 2-0 to leicester...
If we hit form enough beat West Ham 5-0... we're not losing 2-0 to Leicester 4 days later
Saw a star the other day. Since Payet joined West Ham no player has created more chances for them, despite him leaving 3 and a half years ago, and not even being there for long.Not comparable at all. That West Ham side was a different beast. Payet was pulling rabbits out of the hat every game. They were fighting for Europe and more importantly it was the last ever game at Upton Park, the ground was buzzing and it was pretty much their cup final. We couldn't buy a goal at the time either so I'm not sure how we managed to score twice.
Better to have that safety net than not having it imo.People do make me laugh... 5-0 win against West Ham to allow us to lose 2-0 to leicester...
If we hit form enough beat West Ham 5-0... we're not losing 2-0 to Leicester 4 days later
Fair enough but the point still stands: we're more than capable of fecking it up. Just like how we lost to West Ham back then, we can easily lose to Leicester this time.Yeah I meant after final table, with hindsight draw was enough but at that time we didnt know that.
That's not relevant for this Wolves team. They are completely different team with lot of investment. Its like someone using middlesbrough's 8-1 result against this City and come up with middlesbrough are somehow favorites as they smashed City 8-1.Their recent history against us is 8 wins for Chelsea, 2 wins for Wolves and 1 draw.
I think its one of those where fluke 1-0's are always prone to happening so its nice to not be freaking out if its a tied game late on. And Leicester are a good side despite the form so you don't want to get fecked over!
Logic would suggest not, but football doesn't always work to logic.
Oh I know, I certainly think a big win against west ham is possible and is what we should be going for.Better to have that safety net than not having it imo.
3 goal margin win here should be enough. Leicester will have to attack and we'll sucker punch their makeshift defence.
Yeah, I won't be surprised if we somehow feck it up too.Fair enough but the point still stands: we're more than capable of fecking it up. Just like how we lost to West Ham back then, we can easily lose to Leicester this time.
If we beat City away, we surely won't lose to West Brom at home a week later!People do make me laugh... 5-0 win against West Ham to allow us to lose 2-0 to leicester...
If we hit form enough beat West Ham 5-0... we're not losing 2-0 to Leicester 4 days later
Your overall record against them is 42 wins, 27 draws, 39 losses. 17 of those wins came in 30 or so games before WW2. In modern history they have the upper hand against you.Their recent history against us is 8 wins for Chelsea, 2 wins for Wolves and 1 draw.
good point well madeIf we beat City away, we surely won't lose to West Brom at home a week later!
A Leicester side that has been thumped by spurs and Bournemouth lately and has a ton of their first team players out injured?We should beat West Ham, even with our shocking tiredness, but I can't see us beating Leicester Hope I'm wrong
Lose to Liverpool and I'd say you''ll be going into that Wolves game bricking it and Wolves will smell blood. Important you get a result vs Pool.Understandable but I view us as their bogey team due to recent history. We can tend to disagree and not make an argument out of it. I never feel threatened by Wolves, I like playing against them.
Can't believe I have to state the obvious, but anything that is pre Wolves' Chinese takeover is not recent.Their recent history against us is 8 wins for Chelsea, 2 wins for Wolves and 1 draw.
CheekyLose to Liverpool and I'd say you''ll be going into that Wolves game bricking it and Wolves will smell blood. Important you get a result vs Pool.
cnuts were game raisers even back then. They ended our unbeaten start to the season in February. Think it was right after Arsenal had bottled a four goal lead, didn't even get to enjoy that properly. That one stocky defender would be piss poor for 36 games but turn into peak Maldini when he played us.Can't believe I have to state the obvious, but anything that is pre Wolves' Chinese takeover is not recent.
This Wolves team is a different beast entirely to the one which was a yo-yo team and would be routinely embarrassed in it's PL seasons...
Yep, I remember those days well...cnuts were game raisers even back then. They ended our unbeaten start to the season in February. Think it was right after Arsenal had bottled a four goal lead, didn't even get to enjoy that properly. That one stocky defender would be piss poor for 36 games but turn into peak Maldini when he played us.
Those were the days. Defeats were so rare that I would be depressed for days whenever we lost. These days I'm back to normal 5 mins after full time
I'm hoping it's just the pessimism in me, Leicester are always very good when they play us. We've a few out and a shattered squad tooA Leicester side that has been thumped by spurs and Bournemouth lately and has a ton of their first team players out injured?
It really would’ve done. Or just do the FA Cup how the Europa have done it.. 3 fixture rounds over a week-10 days at the end of the seasonLiverpool and Wolves have the huge rest advantage going into their games v Chelsea
Its criminal how this is working out. Just another week added would have solved so much
Last time they beat us at their own place was in 2014.I'm hoping it's just the pessimism in me, Leicester are always very good when they play us. We've a few out and a shattered squad too
LCFC beat Soton 9-0 and we drew with them twice this season. By that logic, we should be 20 points behind LCFC.People do make me laugh... 5-0 win against West Ham to allow us to lose 2-0 to leicester...
If we hit form enough beat West Ham 5-0... we're not losing 2-0 to Leicester 4 days later
Post you're quoting is nonsense but since they've come up we're 1-1-1 against them - 7 goals for Chelsea, 5 for Wolves. We also played them in the FA Cup in 2017 which was post-takeover and won 2-0, but including that is a stretch.Your overall record against them is 42 wins, 27 draws, 39 losses. 17 of those wins came in 30 or so games before WW2. In modern history they have the upper hand against you.
Youve lost one, drawn one and won one since Wolves returned to the PL, that's 1 win in 3, how are Chelsea their bogey team?Chelsea will draw with Liverpool and beat Wolves on the final day. We are Wolves bogey team and theyre not in the best of forms to take a win from us.
Of course, as there is UtdHeh, you hope.
Very real chance Chelsea will finish outside top four.
Aye, true.Of course, as there is Utd
I hope you don't beat Wolves though. They might have a keeper who's not lacking confidence, you know.Utd to beat West Ham
Chelsea to lose to Liverpool
Chelsea to beat Wolves
Utd to beat Leicester is what will happen IMO