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They both can be frustrating players and they are not my favourites, but to claim that they wouldn't help is wrong.Neither are good enough, we'd just be spending money to stand still.
We are a team devoid of brains in the final 3rd, these two are erratic show-offs who are going to frustrate more than Nani, we need some football intelligence added to the forward line, we saw a glimpse yesterday of Greenwood and it was refreshing to see his awareness in the final 3rd even if his finishing didn't come off. We'd be spending £50M on an average winger for a side that needs solid players that are reliable, and neither would help us finish higher than this season and we'd have another expensive flop to shift.They both can be frustrating players and they are not my favourites, but to claim that they wouldn't help is wrong.
What do we do, when Eriksen, Fekir, Havertz, Jovic, Joao Felix and Sancho aren't signing for us this summer? Which is likely due to no CL football and a lot of teams being interested in those players.We are a team devoid of brains in the final 3rd, these two are erratic show-offs who are going to frustrate more than Nani, we need some football intelligence added to the forward line, we saw a glimpse yesterday of Greenwood and it was refreshing to see his awareness in the final 3rd even if his finishing didn't come off. We'd be spending £50M on an average winger for a side that needs solid players that are reliable, and neither would help us finish higher than this season and we'd have another expensive flop to shift.
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We don’t know that as of yet.What do we do, when Eriksen, Fekir, Havertz, Jovic, Joao Felix and Sancho aren't signing for us this summer? Which is likely due to no CL football and a lot of teams being interested in those players.
If it were up to me? I'd just give the academy players in those positions a chance as we'd be finishing outside the top 4 either way, just strengthen the defense and midfield, because I'll stick my neck out now and say Pepe, Zaha, Bruno Fernandes and Lozano will take us nowhere and if we start the season with Rashford or Lukaku as our main striker we wont get top 4 so I'd keep the powder dry and test the 4 or 5 from the academy that are so highly rated.What do we do, when Eriksen, Fekir, Havertz, Jovic, Joao Felix and Sancho aren't signing for us this summer? Which is likely due to no CL football and a lot of teams being interested in those players.
I'm hopeful that we sign those players (Dybala and the players I've listed above), but to turn our nose up on someone like Pepe, who's had a really good season, isn't something we currently can afford to do.We don’t know that as of yet.
There’s also Dybala, Bruno and Brooks.
Amongst others.
Considering Arsenal's transfer budget, Chelsea losing Hazard and their transfer ban, and Tottenham not being that good this season, that would be the wrong approach IMO. With proper coaching and management, it shouldn't be that difficult to sneak past those teams, even if sign players that aren't quite the absolute best or most talented players in their respective positions.If it were up to me? I'd just give the academy players in those positions a chance as we'd be finishing outside the top 4 either way, just strengthen the defense and midfield, because I'll stick my neck out now and say Pepe, Zaha, Bruno Fernandes and Lozano will take us nowhere and if we start the season with Rashford or Lukaku as our main striker we wont get top 4 so I'd keep the powder dry and test the 4 or 5 from the academy that are so highly rated.
I disagree, Arsenal have a clear direction and way of playing and they have 2 quality strikers, Chelsea will get their ban held up long enough to get another window in and given Poch has gotten Spurs to a CL final on nothing I think they will invest to keep him and they already have a comfortably better side than us. My view is 5th is our outcome at best, I'd rather just get that or lower with the academy players than buy these middle of the road players and still fail, they just aren't good enough. I would say we could be 3 or 4 seasons away from getting any kind of real progress, I'd rather do it from within than buy average players and hope to scrape a 4th place finish, longer term I'd finish 7th and see what we have with the likes of Greenwood and Gomes in these forward roles, midfield and defense I think that we'll recruit decently.Considering Arsenal's transfer budget, Chelsea losing Hazard and their transfer ban, and Tottenham not being that good this season, that would be the wrong approach IMO. With proper coaching and management, it shouldn't be that difficult to sneak past those teams, even if sign players that aren't quite the absolute best or most talented players in their respective positions.
Okay. I mean Pepe is quite clearly not average, but if you say so.I disagree, Arsenal have a clear direction and way of playing and they have 2 quality strikers, Chelsea will get their ban held up long enough to get another window in and given Poch has gotten Spurs to a CL final on nothing I think they will invest to keep him and they already have a comfortably better side than us. My view is 5th is our outcome at best, I'd rather just get that or lower with the academy players than buy these middle of the road players and still fail, they just aren't good enough. I would say we could be 3 or 4 seasons away from getting any kind of real progress, I'd rather do it from within than buy average players and hope to scrape a 4th place finish, longer term I'd finish 7th and see what we have with the likes of Greenwood and Gomes in these forward roles, midfield and defense I think that we'll recruit decently.
Looks like this is BS but, for what it's worth, I've seen some Mexican fans indicate that we would be interested in Carlos Rodriguez out of Monterrey if anyone. They said Montes has potential but needs to develop lots before moving to Europe. Rodriguez is more likely apparently; a 22 year old CM, 2 goals and 9 assists this season and got his first cap for Mexico this year.Tweet
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Translation: Manchester United scouts at the BBVA to watch 2 Monterrey players
I hope it's Montes and/or J. Gonzalez. Two positions we're in dire need of upgrading.
Hopefully not true. Imagine signing Daniel James for his price over that price for Sessegnon.Tweet
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What has Sessegnon done to be considered any better than probably the best young player in Championship? He was completely out of his depth in the PL. But under Poch, I back any young player to have a shot of development unfortunately.Hopefully not true. Imagine signing Daniel James for his price over that price for Sessegnon.
Are we talking about Sessegnon, who at 17 had 16 goals and 8 assists in the Championship? Meanwhile Daniel James at age 21 only had 5 goals and 10 assists. And so because Sessegnon at age 18 only had 2 goals and 6 assists in the PL, it means that Daniel James is the better talent?What has Sessegnon done to be considered any better than probably the best young player in Championship? He was completely out of his depth in the PL. But under Poch, I back any young player to have a shot of development unfortunately.
Funny thing is, if we have success and if he play as instrumental part of it, fans will have to eat back their words.Tweet
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Sessegnon is a great talent but so is James. Players develop at a different rate and will hit their peak at different age.Are we talking about Sessegnon, who at 17 had 16 goals and 8 assists in the Championship? Meanwhile Daniel James at age 21 only had 5 goals and 10 assists. And so because Sessegnon at age 18 only had 2 goals and 6 assists in the PL, it means that Daniel James is the better talent?
I'm sure if he didn't act like he always has one foot out of the door, fans would show him the same love they showed de Gea during his poor form.Funny thing is, if we have success and if he play as instrumental part of it, fans will have to eat back their words.
Fans are like sheep. Now you loathe him but if things go well you worship him. Funny stuff.
Though time like these, we have to stick together and support our best players, De Gea included.
Thing is we never know if the rumors are true, maybe the media spins whatever they can, or maybe its the truth. Fact is he is still in the club and we have to respect that.I'm sure if he didn't act like he always has one foot out of the door, fans would show him the same love they showed de Gea during his poor form.
I only used stats to show that Sessegnon is the more likely success. If Daniel James couldn't best Sessegnon's 17 age season, why should he be the more likelier of the two to succeed at the PL level? Would Daniel James had a better season than Sessegnon's PL season if he was 18 years old?There's David Brooks with 3 goals and 5 assists in the Championship and 5'8.
Its not just about stats, its whether they have assets capable of playing in the PL. Probably didn't help that Fulham were crap
This is true, and there is countless examples of this. What I'm saying is that what is the more likelier to happen using logic? Sessegnon has been written off at age 18 (not by you, mind you), which I find ridiculous.Sessegnon is a great talent but so is James. Players develop at a different rate and will hit their peak at different age.
Basically you can't predict who's going to become a better player in the future.
Maybe both of them will be great but who knows? Both of them could fail.
None of those stats mean one talent is better than the other because stats from Championship will hardly translate at all in the PL. Choosing between two young players, both Championship level, comes down to who has the right skill set. I wouldn’t know who is better but your post made it sound like some grave mistake by the club not signing a player who clearly isn’t good enough for now. I am happy to take this debate to the proper Dan James thread.Are we talking about Sessegnon, who at 17 had 16 goals and 8 assists in the Championship? Meanwhile Daniel James at age 21 only had 5 goals and 10 assists. And so because Sessegnon at age 18 only had 2 goals and 6 assists in the PL, it means that Daniel James is the better talent?
There is nothing to discuss. You only think Ryan Sessegnon, an 18 year old isn't good enough based on his time in the PL as an 18 year old. Meanwhile, you think Daniel James, a 21 year old is good enough to play in the PL based on his time in the Championship, as a 21 year old. You've chosen to trust United over Spurs in regards to this unverifiable rumor/hypothetical, and you've chosen to judge Daniel James more favorable based on only that because clearly Ryan Sessegnon was better in their respective seasons in the Championship last season even though he was 3 years younger.None of those stats mean one talent is better than the other because stats from Championship will hardly translate at all in the PL. Choosing between two young players, both Championship level, comes down to who has the right skill set. I wouldn’t know who is better but your post made it sound like some grave mistake by the club not signing a player who clearly isn’t good enough for now. I am happy to take this debate to the proper Dan James thread.
Maybe stretching it, but I think he is the one outfield player on the whole that has been ok throughout the season. Has weaknesses of course and still concerns about him being match fit at times but considering all the players do need replacing he is not really a concern for me anywayYou like Shaw?
De Gea is only here because of a broken fax machine. Double standardsI'm sure if he didn't act like he always has one foot out of the door, fans would show him the same love they showed de Gea during his poor form.
He signed an extension since then which suggests he had a problem with the manager more than the club and he also has far more gratitude in the bank considering he's one of about five players left to have won the premier league with us and the other four are either has beens or never beens.De Gea is only here because of a broken fax machine. Double standards
He's a world class shot stopper at close range, apart from that he has very obvious flaws in his game. He's no where the likes of Alisson and Ederson in terms of complete package. If we can rinse someone like PSG for him and bring in someone like Oblak it would be good business.Wow player of the year for the last how many seasons, has a bad month or so and now we need a better all round keeper than arguably the best keeper in the world, absolutely crazy. Can question his form and whether he wants to stay with the contract saga but "an all round better keeper".....wow
Except I don't think any of us care this time?This Pogba saga will go on the whole summer, won't it?
We finished 32 points behind them this season. If they get that lot add another 15 to it.If these four are available for £200m I'd grab them quick, if City sign them we could be 30 points behind them next season.
Not seen anything of Daniel James but for £25m Sessegnon would be a good deal for us. Providing competition to both Shaw at left back and left wing be it Martial or a quality new signing.Hopefully not true. Imagine signing Daniel James for his price over that price for Sessegnon.
I meant to say '30 points AGAIN'.We finished 32 points behind them this season. If they get that lot add another 15 to it.
Ederson has been fantastic this season cant disagree. ALisson has had a very good season too, same keeper many were slating last year when Liverpool beat Roma. ALl down the "good with feet, building from the back, this is modern football" argument this sounds like, no where near the likes of in complete package, tell me what ALisson is so much better than apart from usiing his feet than DeGea I am intrigued?He's a world class shot stopper at close range, apart from that he has very obvious flaws in his game. He's no where the likes of Alisson and Ederson in terms of complete package. If we can rinse someone like PSG for him and bring in someone like Oblak it would be good business.
Absolutely correct.He's a world class shot stopper at close range, apart from that he has very obvious flaws in his game. He's no where the likes of Alisson and Ederson in terms of complete package. If we can rinse someone like PSG for him and bring in someone like Oblak it would be good business.
It very much relies on those players wanting to join us though. We aren't dealing with general goods here, there are people and they have their own desires, agendas and aspirations. Not signing a player doesn't automatically mean we weren't interested.If these four are available for £200m I'd grab them quick, if City sign them we could be 30 points behind them next season.
I assume Felipe replaces Godin, and Telles potentially for Lucas Hernandez. Herrera (not quite like for like) for Rodri?Atlético have closed deals with Herrera, midfield (out of contract), and Felipe, CB that will cost 20/25 m€.
The signing of Telles, the Left back is very advanced too. If not they also like Gayá, Tagliafico, Grimaldo.
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It can be argued that the three player they are signing are downgrades for the three players that are leaving.Atletico don't mess around do they?
Telles is probably the only one that would interest the most. Racks up crazy assists tallies for Porto. Simeone’s system will probably help him defend better too, which was his major flaw when he moved to Inter.It can be argued that the three player they are signing are downgrades for the three players that are leaving.
They should ban that bellend shouting feck off at his own players anyway. Whether or not you agree with Pogba's attitude and effort, that's not on.Tweet
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