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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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We haven't sold anyone, right? Few loans and that is it.
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It is our fault. They over pay players who now think they are worth that sort of money. Which might be why we are having problems even shifting the likes of Brandon Williams out on loan because clubs won't pay the loan fee. It will be a raft of loans to get Pereira and the likes out at the end of the transfer window. Then we have the same problem again next summer.
19 isn't confirmed and my understanding is he only takes 19 if Diallo goes on loan. Either way players shouldn't be dictating terms to the club, we need to get back to the idea that playing for the club is an honour.
UEFA are about to drop the new idea including salary caps
Our valuation of players is off in many cases. Look at Romero last summer, was poised to join Everton for a couple of million then United raised it to wanting 7 million. Fast forward a year and he’s released on a free. What’s the point?
Are salary caps enforceable? In not up to speed on these things
No idea; but IF it’s true and IF it is, the likes of Haaland might find less money next summer for wages. Though I’m sure certain clubs can be creative in getting around it
Not just released on a free, but also a year of wages were also paid by us during the last season
Was the same with Darmian, Juve wanted him and was willing to pay 10-12 mil. Euros, next season he left fot fish and chips. Some people at the club really are horrible at their job. Not to mention giving new contracts to "protect the assets".
Exactly we paid like 4m in wages to not use him and lose him for free instead. Brilliant piece of business that was.
I think it's still good to loan the deadwood as you trim a year off of their stupid contracts
Legally very hard to enforce.
The way around it usually is to only allow a percentage of earnings to be used for the wage bill. This already in sport and works well
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Yes, but not if we are then paying their stupid wages so a club will take them. Which might be a possibility.
I could see that happening, although it'll be hard to actually impose on clubs. Think clubs would just give them more money on appearance fee etc.
Two points;
1) You get to keep them one additional season for whatever reason
2) It's about the messaging, market value or nothing
Having said that, for petty fees I agree we should've sold them, especially considering we're paying wages on top of not getting a transfer fee.
"Protecting their value"
How do you protect the worthless. I still have nightmares over Jones contract.
Romero let’s say got 4m in wages
Everton offered 2 - 3m to take him
We say give us 7. Everton walk away
We keep him for a year, pay him wages then he walks for free.
id say it’s more like “protecting our debt”
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Balls. That means no Maddison to Arsenal and thus, no Jessie to Leicester.
More pennies for the Mbappe money box.
no way they pay 50 million for him, he didn't do all that much did he?
that is what I thought till I saw this, I wouldn't put it pass them over paying like they did on ben white
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It's incredibly stupid, don't get me wrong, but the only rationale I can think of is that the club thinks they can get transfer fees for them. No idea who makes those assessments.
I would assume that, like most monumental cockups, it's an Ed Woodward special.
The proposal being talked about is a soft salary cap. So any spending over the limit is then taxed with the funds redistributed into prize money and lower league solidarity.
Possible insurance against De Gea or Henderson leaving as well. Hendo was being linked to Spurs and Chelsea and making a big fuss about being no1.
Wouldn’t they just make it voluntary in the same way that clubs have to agree to certain conditions to partake in European football. So while you could pay bigger salaries you wouldn’t be able to take up your place in European competition as those rules are set by UEFA as a private entity and they can have what rules they want. You are choosing to sign up to them in order to compete.
This.
4m in wages isn't that much for a club like united.
It's overkill for a 3rd keeper yes, but we still needed one and we shouldn't set a precedent that clubs can roll us over with ridiculous offers.
Having said that, we are very poor at getting consistent value for our sales.
Wages are a massive part of this, we need to get control of the wages for squaddies like Jones, lingard etc
100m for Ødegaard and White 
Oh. Not sure how I feel about that.
so a club that buys the best talent, goes over their limit then probably wins back a portion of it anyway in prize money
I'd imagine so but they wouldn't want push back from the big teams (Super League pt2) also, only allowing teams that sign up for this wouldn't really be voluntary.
Ødegaard for 40 million may turn out to be abit of a coup.
Liked what I saw of him last season.
Liked what I saw of him last season.
Technically Grant was our 3rd keeper last season.
Looks like Jessie to Real Madrid then.
I meant at the time of negotiation, wasn't he dropped from the Prem registration list because he kicked off about the transfer falling through?
What I mean is all European competition is voluntary. We don’t have to take our place in the Champions League. We choose to for obvious reasons but we accept UEFA as the controller of the competition. If UEFA clubs vote this through then you are right it’s not really voluntary as you’d be left on your own (as Real Madrid, Barca and Juventus have been with the super league).
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