The problem has never been using one year extensions. The problem has always been that we’ve been unwilling to then sell those players for a reasonable fee once we triggered it. Pogba and Lingard both had options but we hoped to extend their deals or simply decided to keep them for squad depth. Both were poor decisions.
In Pogba’s situation [hate him or love him] the one year activation was specifically the problem though as he stated he’d have negotiated earlier
so by the time we’d activated it he had no intention of signing a deal.
Activation clauses in & of themselves indeed are not
the problem. Manchester United football clubs application of them certainly is though, I chose to reflect on previous cases rather than the idyllic scenarios people are creating in here.
You say we are at the point where we either extend or sell Rashford. But obviously the only way to get a fee is by triggering his extension. If we don’t he leaves for free in the summer. We aren’t going to do a 4-5 year contract then sell him.
I specifically said in relation to ‘the poster
’ [as that’s what we’re doing here]. . .
the extra few games between now & spring are going to tell us very little about his actual ability if it’s only ‘a couple of decent months form every 2 years’ anyway. By all means argue we should extend the contract to sell him but for someone you clearly don’t rate why the hell would you want to negotiate in the Spring anyway.
I’m criticising the idea you’d activate the clause now, in November with 2 months to January, to then start negotiations in the Spring. Surely you just start them now & avoid the potential ill will, should we get to December then we’ll be forced to extend but we are not there yet. You’re not discussing what is written.
Despite the strange infatuation some have with Rashford leaving the club, we won’t be in a position to just sell him at the end of the season should we put ourselves in a position where he doesn’t sign by then. His current back ups include Elanga [enough said], Pellestri [even less needs saying] & a young Argentinian. If we find ourselves in December/January activating the clause we’re further up against the clock with only one outcome that favours the squad. The idea the club hold the upper hand is fanciful. I’m not a particularly big fan of Shaw but the same decision needs making there too.
Obviously Lingard in particular should have simply been allowed to leave on a free. We triggered his extension then wouldn’t sell him for anything reasonable. Instead we paid a year of wages and then lost him for free anyway.
Lingard should have been sold to West Ham for a fee. Another example of why I don’t trust the club with these activation’s.
Everyone on here should be in agreement that we either extend Rashford long term OR if we are to sell him then the only way we get a decent fee is by using his 1 year option. Without the option we may get £5-10m based on the likes of Zakaria moving to Juve last January. With the option triggered Rashford probably goes for £25m+ in January or the summer.
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We’re at the point where you either sell Rashford, to you know make money or we negotiate a new contract.
By all means argue we should extend the contract to sell him
You remember the first post you quoted that said ‘preaching to the converted
’. . . I’m not sure why you’re so insistent on disagreeing with someone you’re parroting.
We need to sort out his new contract, not posture for people on forums.
This isn’t the thread for this discussion, We can discuss in the sell or stay.