Television True Detective | Season 2 Spoilers

walsh

Full Member
Joined
Jan 16, 2010
Messages
10,868
Location
Football, bloody hell.
Obviously in the minority here but I'm finding it (especially the most recent epiaode) strangely absorbing and intriguing.

Farrell is good and I think VV is doing a decent job also. McAdams and Kitsch are OK. This is associated to S1 by name alone (bar some vague stylistic similarities) and I'm finding since I accepted that it's easier just to take it for what it is.
 

CassiusClaymore

Is it Gaizka Mendieta?
Scout
Joined
Apr 28, 2008
Messages
35,864
Location
None of your business mate
Supports
The greatest team in history
I can't believe people think Farrell is good in this. His voice is ridiculous.

I don't blame any of them for the stuff they're having to say though. It's like Gordon Ramsay being asked to cook something delicious with a pile of offal.
 

Orc

Pretended to be a United fan for two years
Joined
Dec 17, 2012
Messages
5,322
Supports
Chelsea
I can't believe people think Farrell is good in this. His voice is ridiculous.

I don't blame any of them for the stuff they're having to say though. It's like Gordon Ramsay being asked to cook something delicious with a pile of offal.
I think he and McAdams are good. Vince Vaughn and Taylor Kitsch are bad.

This latest episode was better than the previous ones but this season hasn't been close to the quality of last season.
 

crappycraperson

"Resident cricket authority"
Scout
Joined
Dec 26, 2003
Messages
38,187
Location
Interweb
I am finally at a point where I am not sure why I am watching this anymore. I do not care zilch about the murder conspiracy plot. May be care a bit more about the characters but not considerable enough. It is a nothing show so far and I guess the only reason I would watch it now is that only 3 episodes are left.
 

BAMSOLA

Has issues!
Joined
Jul 7, 2006
Messages
10,979
Location
"You know why I'm here" - Marshawn Lynch
Supports
A Crack Habit.
I'm kinda in the boat where I'm swinging between enjoying this and hating it on an episode by episode basis. I don't think the last episode was bad however and I quite enjoyed it.

Also it has suddenly dawned on me that the dialogue might appear to be just bad writing but that's because the whole thing is a very deliberate attempt at Chandleresque pastiche/prose, including a hit and miss (mostly miss in fairness) attempt at hard boiled dialogue.

I'm gonna keep watching mostly out of intrigue, I don't think most of it works anywhere near as well as it should but I think most of the harsh reception might be because the style is so deliberate and slightly anachronistic that it might have caught out some viewer (caught me out for a good few episodes). However I don't think this is a bad attempt at Twin Peakes, I think if anything its a poor attempt at The Big Sleep, even the acting is beginning to fit this pattern.
 

Gambit

Desperately wants to be a Muppet
Joined
Sep 30, 2004
Messages
30,997
I'm loving it. Think you're all being way to critical.
 

Cheesy

Bread with dipping sauce
Scout
Joined
Oct 16, 2011
Messages
36,181
I'm about halfway through the episode and the woman singing depressing songs at the empty bar has turned up again. Ffs.
 

kouroux

45k posts to finally achieve this tagline
Joined
Apr 25, 2007
Messages
96,103
Location
Djibouti (La terre des braves)
I'm about halfway through the episode and the woman singing depressing songs at the empty bar has turned up again. Ffs.
It is safe to assume, she will appear in every single remaining episode.
The guy who wrote the dialogues should be shot, specially the ones for Vaughn's character :houllier: Who even talks like that ?
 

Mciahel Goodman

Worst Werewolf Player of All Times
Staff
Joined
Apr 27, 2014
Messages
30,017
I'm saving this up for a binge watch but guessing that maybe I shouldn't bother?
It might be better if it's watched in one long sitting. Lots of people hated the new season of GoT but I watched 7 or 8 episodes in a binge and though they were excellent.
 

Cina

full member
Joined
Aug 10, 2007
Messages
50,911
it was so bad. I thought last week's shootout was at least a way for them to ramp things the feck up, instead it feels like they've gone back to square one and yet again we're left with shitty personal issues of cliché characters I don't particularly give a feck about, apart from maybe Farrell, maybe, but even then the dialogue with his ex wife is so bad that it's hard to watch.

True Detective was always trash TV, but it was clever, entertaining trash TV in season one, this is just boring, shittily written trash TV.
 

Brwned

Have you ever been in love before?
Joined
Apr 18, 2008
Messages
50,848
it was so bad. I thought last week's shootout was at least a way for them to ramp things the feck up, instead it feels like they've gone back to square one and yet again we're left with shitty personal issues of cliché characters I don't particularly give a feck about, apart from maybe Farrell, maybe, but even then the dialogue with his ex wife is so bad that it's hard to watch.

True Detective was always trash TV, but it was clever, entertaining trash TV in season one, this is just boring, shittily written trash TV.
What was trashy about season one?

I gave up after the first episode of this. Losing Fukanaga was a big blow it seems.
 

Cina

full member
Joined
Aug 10, 2007
Messages
50,911
What was trashy about season one?

I gave up after the first episode of this. Losing Fukanaga was a big blow it seems.
You didn't get that sort of vibe from it? Just felt like a typical HBO show in that aspect to me, throw in as much sex, violence and controversial/dark content as possible. I thought Lousiana itself was a trashy (albeit brilliantly fleshed out) setting too, and episode four especially with the biker gang and drugs etc was very trashy (but again, amazing). I'm not really saying it was trash tv in a bad way or anything, it worked really well, but I thought it was definitely going for that sort of angle.
 

Leg-End

Full Member
Joined
Sep 20, 2004
Messages
19,554
I look forward to seeing what they make Frank say next, it's the only thing worth looking forward to now.
 

Nighteyes

Another Muppet
Joined
Nov 14, 2012
Messages
25,467
For a show that's called "True Detective", the actual detective stuff has been crap in both seasons.
 

Cina

full member
Joined
Aug 10, 2007
Messages
50,911
For a show that's called "True Detective", the actual detective stuff has been crap in both seasons.
Eh? Rust and Marty were very good detectives on the original case, it was just closed and pulled from them so there was nothing more they could do at the time.
 

Nighteyes

Another Muppet
Joined
Nov 14, 2012
Messages
25,467
Eh? Rust and Marty were very good detectives on the original case, it was just closed and pulled from them so there was nothing more they could do at the time.
I don't think the detective element of the show was all that good in the first season either. The green paint deduction was a bit ridiculous and I seem to remember them not explaining some other things they had brought up in the earlier episodes. Everything else was great so the lack of a good plot wasn't that obvious unlike this season where everything has been crap.
 

kouroux

45k posts to finally achieve this tagline
Joined
Apr 25, 2007
Messages
96,103
Location
Djibouti (La terre des braves)
I don't think the detective element of the show was all that good in the first season either. The green paint deduction was a bit ridiculous and I seem to remember them not explaining some other things they had brought up in the earlier episodes. Everything else was great so the lack of a good plot wasn't that obvious unlike this season where everything has been crap.
The green paint resolution completely ruined the detective aspect of the first season for me too. It was good before it.
 

LeChuck

CE Specialist
I just finished episode 5. It's probably the best of the season. Having said that, it's best of a bad bunch. I almost feel this should have been episode 1, with some of scenes from the earlier episodes used as a flashback. The story has actually started getting somewhat interesting.

I'm incredibly attracted to Rachel McAdams.

I can't decide if Kitsch is a good or awful actor. I mean, that trailer park scene with his mum was so cringe worthy (and poorly edited). But, he does the broody stuff pretty well (the scene with his mother in law, the scene with the actress).

Farrell is getting a bit interesting now. I'm actually interested in what VV has to say about giving Farell a fake name.

Farell's ex wife is annoying, and a poorly written character.

At least they stopped with the needless panoramic shots this episode.

And yea, some of the dialogue is woeful.
 

Cheesy

Bread with dipping sauce
Scout
Joined
Oct 16, 2011
Messages
36,181
Sort of like the guy on the lawnmower in the first series? Maybe she is the killer.
He wasn't in every episode though, she's literally there in every single one, singing really depressing songs as people talk about really depressing stuff.
 

Berbaclass

Fallen Muppet. Lest we never forget
Joined
Jan 23, 2010
Messages
39,039
Location
Cooper Station
I just finished episode 5. It's probably the best of the season. Having said that, it's best of a bad bunch. I almost feel this should have been episode 1, with some of scenes from the earlier episodes used as a flashback. The story has actually started getting somewhat interesting.

I'm incredibly attracted to Rachel McAdams.

I can't decide if Kitsch is a good or awful actor. I mean, that trailer park scene with his mum was so cringe worthy (and poorly edited). But, he does the broody stuff pretty well (the scene with his mother in law, the scene with the actress).

Farrell is getting a bit interesting now. I'm actually interested in what VV has to say about giving Farell a fake name.

Farell's ex wife is annoying, and a poorly written character.

At least they stopped with the needless panoramic shots this episode.

And yea, some of the dialogue is woeful.

Aren't we all?

I fancy her more after each episode :lol:
 

Pogue Mahone

The caf's Camus.
Joined
Feb 22, 2006
Messages
133,942
Location
"like a man in silk pyjamas shooting pigeons
I don't think the detective element of the show was all that good in the first season either. The green paint deduction was a bit ridiculous and I seem to remember them not explaining some other things they had brought up in the earlier episodes. Everything else was great so the lack of a good plot wasn't that obvious unlike this season where everything has been crap.
Yeah, agreed. The whole sleuthing element in series one gave an illusion of depth by having them turn up a series of clues that you assumed would all be tied together in a gloriously satisfying finale. As it turned out, they ended up going full retard with the green ears nonense and left all the earlier leads in the investigation hanging, with no explanation or resolution.

There's no way the script was this lame in season one, though. The writers are definitely plumbing new depths with the clunky dialogue Vaughan and co are being forced to deliver.

Yet somehow - despite all these problems - I'm finding it perversely enjoyable. It's possible that this is because it's so bad it's good but I'll have a better idea when I'm looking back on the whole season.
 
Last edited:

LARulz

Full Member
Joined
Dec 21, 2009
Messages
18,195
I'm thinking it's deliberate for Frank to have these bullshit sayings, and not just completely piss poor writing
 

simonhch

Horrible boss
Joined
Aug 17, 2010
Messages
14,485
Location
Seventh Heaven
Supports
Urban Combat Preparedness
It's just so awful. I missed the first twenty minutes of the last episode, only to discover career changes and demotions for key characters, and I couldn't even bother to rewind to find out how/why. It's just complete bollocks. I rewatched the entire first season to make up for it.