I don’t buy that. The first and the third options though, yeah definitely.
Two american tourists jailed for 21 years in Italy after killing an undercover policeman
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Could possibly depend on where the stabbing took place for execution to be in play, but the possibility would be very, very low.
Maybe there was something in the deal for them too ? Why would they want to help a drug dealer ? Did they know who the tip was coming from ?
Almost all the kids carrying knives in the UK are doing so for similar reasons. I still don't believe that's a reason to carry a knife.
Hard not to be a cynic. Mental issue is often used as a defence for everything from drug abuse to terrorism.
I just strapped on a blade during a trip to the store this morning. My Southern-ness being attacked spurred me to do so.
Yup, just watch out for over the topness.
Illegal in different parts of America? Illegal with max 4 year sentence in UK I think, depends on what the knife is in Italy, varies.
I think you're allowed one that's 5 inches or something.Yup, just watch out for over the topness.
Illegal in different parts of America? Illegal with max 4 year sentence in UK I think, depends on what the knife is in Italy, varies.
This was how they were interrogated.
No clue.Yup, just watch out for over the topness.
Illegal in different parts of America? Illegal with max 4 year sentence in UK I think, depends on what the knife is in Italy, varies.
I typically have a couple of cork screws in my bag. That’s my definition of being ‘blade strapped.’
Sad he's just a baby
This was how they were interrogated.
That’s a legit photo? Jesus.
This was how they were interrogated.
Christ, just travel with the scudder. It’s not hard. Why put yourself in a fecked up position in a foreign country?
If the kids are white and the cop is black, they'll probably get a burger king and a flight ticket to go home. I remember there being a case where a couple of Italian sailors shot and killed some port workers or other civilians in South Asia and they never faced any consequences as the government refused to extradite them. The Italians aren't some strictly law abiding side either.
Being cynical too, I was thinking that maybe the cops were intent on shaking down these 2 nitwits.
lucky he wasnt arrested by americans then I guess
This was how they were interrogated.
That was in India.
It doesn't really matter if they were cops or not, the guy carried a knife from the US and didn't think twice about using it to stab somebody 11 times. There's only one intention there. He's a murderer and got the time he deserves.
I feel a little sorry for his friend being done for the same thing as an accomplice, and of course there will be inconsistencies in the police work. They are not always the most professional in Italy.
I feel a little sorry for his friend being done for the same thing as an accomplice, and of course there will be inconsistencies in the police work. They are not always the most professional in Italy.
it’s essentially the word of the one cop against the two kids. If the cops were dressed in civil clothes and failed to identify themselves, that becomes an issue as the kids claim self defense and although there will be punishment for that and for buying drugs, it won’t be life in prison.
Im not sure walkig round with a big knife and stabbing somebody 11 times really strikes me as self defence to be honest
These are 18 year olds, trying to meet a drug dealer in a dark alley to get their money back. If the cops charged and tackled them without identifying themselves, what else do you expect them to do?
Not bring a knife to the country... not walk around with it... not rob drug dealers and not stabbing anybody 11 times - police or not
Just like when they get shanked in prison that wont be self defence either
What were they being interrogated for?lucky he wasnt arrested by americans then I guess
Being Iraqi.
That bottom picture never ceases to amaze me.lucky he wasnt arrested by americans then I guess
The cat is apparently more focused on clipping his fingernails than with the hooded Iraqi prisoner having to stand in a crucifix pose with electrodes attached for his fingers.
I’m not saying they are innocent but the cops clearly didn’t take them as a threat, they didn’t carry their service weapons, didn’t dress in police clothes and probably didn’t even have a police ID. If the kids were meeting a drug dealer, expecting to exchange a backpack and phone for their money, do they trust if the guy who happened to arrive there said he’s a cop and handover the bag?
There is a punishment for their stupidity but it’s probably not life in prison, which is tbe strictest sentence in Italy, that is imposed for premeditated murder.
No but the punishment for stabbing an unarmed person 11 times is life in prison ... carrying a big knife around sounds pretty premeditated to me ... what were they planning to do with it if not stab somebody
picked up something off the ground in the heat of the moment slashed once with it and ran off would be very different to concealing a weapon and stabbing somebody 11 times... I mean 11 times.... what state do you think the cop was in after 2 or 3 stabs... 5 or 6 ... 8 or 9... 11 times... not surprised people felt it wasnt self defence
Yeah, there but for the grace of god etc...
Stabbing them once or twice and legging it is self defence. Stabbing them 11 times is murder.
Can we change the thread title to two murderers jailed for violent murder?
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If this is indeed the murder weapon , no way it can pass for self defense. Looks like a combat knife.Can we change the thread title to two murderers jailed for violent murder?
It's hard to attack something that is non-existent
Nice.It's hard to attack something that is non-existent
From the reports it says that the cop was on top of the kid and the kid freaked out thinking he was choking him to death, so he started stabbing until he felt the grip loosen. Apparently the kid is paranoid so carrying a knife albeit stupid is not out of character for him.
The drug dealer was a police informant. They picked the wrong dealer.
It's hard to attack something that is non-existent
Can’t believe I’m getting called out over mud & cornmeal.
You two should count your lucky stars you aren’t trying to sell me Goody’s on the street.
How’s that for Southern fecking bona fides?
I’m surprised the dealer who set the whole thing in motion got off free here. He tried to punk two kids, lost his backpack and went to his cop handler crying about it. He’s about as responsible as the kid who helped hide the weapon.
I think witnessing a murder and hiding the murder weapon probably is slightly worse than the other chap who to the best of my understading
Defrauded the American tourists by not selling them drugs... yeah Im honesly not sure where the legalities of that are but he didnt sell them drugs so Id guess at worst theft of a few euros? and he also had his property stolen.
I mean in the grand scheme of things I think witnessing a murder of a cop (and not reporting it), and then hiding the weapon any lying about it sounds a little worse dont you think?
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Some very strange takes in here.