UK General Election - 12th December 2019 | Con 365, Lab 203, LD 11, SNP 48, Other 23 - Tory Majority of 80

[EwanI Ted]

Why is it bad for the Labour party/government to stay neutral if there was new referendum ?

For this to matter they’ll have had to have stormed to a huge upset victory and will be basking in the new Government glow. Few prime ministers are as popular as they are in the first few months. If Labour refuse to back Remain I believe that’ll influence people in what is bound to be a narrow vote.

Yeah but Labour are the ones that can form some sort of Government

This is neither here nor there. Either Labour get a clear majority or the Lib Dems do well and Labour form some sort of pact with them. Either way, it happens, so it’s not a differentiating factor.

 

[marktan]

And that person is........................

Rebecca Vardy.

 

[sun_tzu]

Why would it be bad for a Labour government to stay neutral on a new referendum ?
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If they can get elected on a manifesto of staying neutral then thats 100% the right thing to do
Problem is we are going to have 6 weeks or so of continual do you prefer to remain or leave... and when people spout the party line the question will be what do you personally think... or how did you vote before and have you changed your mind
Its the biggest issue in the election and I think this policy will be death by 1000 cuts for them in the election campaign... but I guess we will find out over the next few weeks

 

[Sweet Square]

For this to matter they’ll have had to have stormed to a huge upset victory and will be basking in the new Government glow. Few prime ministers are as popular as they are in the first few months. If Labour refuse to back Remain I believe that’ll influence people in what is bound to be a narrow vote..

More reason to vote Labour, no ? But fair enough.

This is neither here nor there. Either Labour get a clear majority or the Lib Dems do well and Labour form some sort of pact with them. Either way, it happens, so it’s not a differentiating factor.

That not going to happen as the Lib Dem history shows. They simply don't work with the Labour Party.

 

[EwanI Ted]

That not going to happen as the Lib Dem history shows. They simply don't work with the Labour Party.

I don’t mean a formal coalition. Just a pact on getting a second referendum through Parliament.

 

[Infra-red]

Have you any idea how fecking insulting that is?

Just because I'm not a Commie bastard, doesn't make me a Nazi ffs! I am passionately pro Remain, who the feck am I supposed to vote for, smart arse?

The Brexit Party. They're right wing, but the more votes they get, the less likely it is that Brexit actually happens.

 

[Sweet Square]

I don’t mean a formal coalition. Just a pact on getting a second referendum through Parliament.

Oh right fair enough.

 

[SalfordRed18]

Rebecca Vardy.

 

[Ekkie Thump]

Have you any idea how fecking insulting that is?

Just because I'm not a Commie bastard, doesn't make me a Nazi ffs! I am passionately pro Remain, who the feck am I supposed to vote for, smart arse?

Same as any other passionate remainer - vote for whoever's most likely to beat the Tory in your area.

 

[TheGame]

Brutal

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[Sassy Colin]

Do you think before you post?

You think what I said is insulting.??

You called me a fecking Nazi! You you think before you post?

 

[Sassy Colin]

Same as any other passionate remainer - vote for whoever's most likely to beat the Tory in your area.

Teresa May is my MP, I doubt anyone is going to beat her.

 

[Sassy Colin]

The Brexit Party. They're right wing, but the more votes they get, the less likely it is that Brexit actually happens.

Never going to vote for that shower of cnuts.

 

[Red Dreams]

You called me a fecking Nazi! You you think before you post?

"Commie Bastards" is ok though....

 

[Paul the Wolf]

After PMQs, Corbyn’s spokesman told journalists:

As we demanded of Theresa May and she refused to agree, we would challenge Boris Johnson to agree today to head-to-head TV debates in this campaign.
But when asked about a three-way discussion with Swinson, the spokesman replied:
We are in discussion with the broadcasters. But there are only two people who can be prime minister at the end of this campaign and I think the British public have a clear right to see them debate head-to-head on TV and hear their cases.

Corbyn's not taking part then? Hohoho!

 

[Sassy Colin]

After PMQs, Corbyn’s spokesman told journalists:

As we demanded of Theresa May and she refused to agree, we would challenge Boris Johnson to agree today to head-to-head TV debates in this campaign.
But when asked about a three-way discussion with Swinson, the spokesman replied:
We are in discussion with the broadcasters. But there are only two people who can be prime minister at the end of this campaign and I think the British public have a clear right to see them debate head-to-head on TV and hear their cases.

Corbyn's not taking part then? Hohoho!

According to the RedCafe poll, he's going to win by a landslide.

 

[TheGame]

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[sun_tzu]

After PMQs, Corbyn’s spokesman told journalists:

As we demanded of Theresa May and she refused to agree, we would challenge Boris Johnson to agree today to head-to-head TV debates in this campaign.
But when asked about a three-way discussion with Swinson, the spokesman replied:
We are in discussion with the broadcasters. But there are only two people who can be prime minister at the end of this campaign and I think the British public have a clear right to see them debate head-to-head on TV and hear their cases.

Corbyn's not taking part then? Hohoho!

Boris will go for a Big panel type debate and Corbyn will be a chicken (again) if he does not take part

 

[esmufc07]

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A fantastic speaker who will be missed.

 

[esmufc07]

According to the RedCafe poll, he's going to win by a landslide.

Colin it's a predominately left wing forum what do you expect?

 

[Damien]

Colin it's a predominately left wing forum what do you expect?

Exactly. You'd see the same on RAWK. The question on the poll isn't "Who do you think will win?" but "Who are you voting for?"

Think we've had this discussion before but Colin keeps getting his knickers in a twist at the idea that some forums are predominantly left wing.

We know that odds are pretty certain that the Conservatives will be the largest party again. Doesn't mean we have to vote for them though if they don't align with our political beliefs.

 

[SteveJ]

The Liverpool Way's poll:

https://www.liverpoolway.co.uk/index.php?/forums/topic/114947-general-election-2019/&page=4

 

[berbatrick]

The Liverpool Way's poll:

https://www.liverpoolway.co.uk/index.php?/forums/topic/114947-general-election-2019/&page=4

people's republic of merseyside

 

[Ekkie Thump]

Teresa May is my MP, I doubt anyone is going to beat her.

Bummer. Maybe the Give me back my Elmo party if they choose to stand again?

 

[esmufc07]

Colin is chuntering from a sedentary position.

 

[hubbuh]

The Liverpool Way's poll:

https://www.liverpoolway.co.uk/index.php?/forums/topic/114947-general-election-2019/&page=4

That's more like it. Can't we get some more Scousers on here?

 

[Damien]

The Liverpool Way's poll:

https://www.liverpoolway.co.uk/index.php?/forums/topic/114947-general-election-2019/&page=4

Brighton one is more spread out and has more replies than our thread: https://www.northstandchat.com/showthread.php?376151-The-General-Election-Thread

Telegraph did an article a few years back: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...lain-politics-labour-dominate-the-premier-le/

Bit basic as it just goes into the postcode of the club but generally it matches up.

 

[SteveJ]

That's more like it. Can't we get some more Scousers on here?

No more freedom of movement, thank you.

 

[berbatrick]

Brighton one is more spread out and has more replies than our thread: https://www.northstandchat.com/showthread.php?376151-The-General-Election-Thread

Telegraph did an article a few years back: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...lain-politics-labour-dominate-the-premier-le/

Bit basic as it just goes into the postcode of the club but generally it matches up.

isn't brighton a green stronghold? it's hard to make sense of that poll.
@DiseaseOfTheAge please bless us with your knoweldge

 

[SteveJ]

Meanwhile at GoonersWorld...

The Manager Referendum


Unai REMAINERS (IN)
16%
Unai LEAVERS (OUT)
84%

 

[Grinner]

I'm alright with the Tories winning and banging Brexit through. You stupid cnuts deserve it.

 

[Sassy Colin]

Exactly. You'd see the same on RAWK. The question on the poll isn't "Who do you think will win?" but "Who are you voting for?"

Think we've had this discussion before but Colin keeps getting his knickers in a twist at the idea that some forums are predominantly left wing.

We know that odds are pretty certain that the Conservatives will be the largest party again. Doesn't mean we have to vote for them though if they don't align with our political beliefs.

Corbyn and the Labour Party get as much abuse as the Torys, yet, still, 50% of the Forum would be happy to vote for him.

 

[berbatrick]

Corbyn and the Labour Party get as much abuse as the Torys, yet, still, 50% of the Forum would be happy to vote for him.

fake friends

 

[Ekkie Thump]

Corbyn and the Labour Party get as much abuse as the Torys, yet, still, 50% of the Forum would be happy to vote for him.

Some are happy some feel you've still got to eat even if there's only shit food.

 

[Redlambs]

Corbyn and the Labour Party get as much abuse as the Torys, yet, still, 50% of the Forum would be happy to vote for him.

Nah, everyone is lying about voting them, only a few on here are REALLY voting Labour. Didn't you know that?

 

[Eboue]

After PMQs, Corbyn’s spokesman told journalists:

As we demanded of Theresa May and she refused to agree, we would challenge Boris Johnson to agree today to head-to-head TV debates in this campaign.
But when asked about a three-way discussion with Swinson, the spokesman replied:
We are in discussion with the broadcasters. But there are only two people who can be prime minister at the end of this campaign and I think the British public have a clear right to see them debate head-to-head on TV and hear their cases.

Corbyn's not taking part then? Hohoho!

Classic

 

[DOTA]

isn't brighton a green stronghold? it's hard to make sense of that poll.
@DiseaseOfTheAge please bless us with your knoweldge

Most Albion fans come from the towns outside of Brighton. Brighton and Hove Albion are basically Sussex FC.

 

[Shamwow]

Corbyn and the Labour Party get as much abuse as the Torys, yet, still, 50% of the Forum would be happy to vote for him.

Not as much point criticising the Tories if we all already agree that they are a bunch of incompetent arseholes.

 

[Jacko21]

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As expected.

 

[Full bodied red]

Most Albion fans come from the towns outside of Brighton. Brighton and Hove Albion are basically Sussex FC.

Only because they won't admit to actually coming from Brighton.

It isn't known as Skidrow-on-Sea for nothing....