Would you not have Sissoko/Hojberg as your main CM double pivot in the first XI?
United squad against Spurs and City
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Apologies from the extreme reaction.
Lets talk about the forwards, Mahrez... has won a premier league title/Sterling - I think his goals per game ratio says it all? I know he's not in the best of form. Comparing them two to Rashford who i feel like he needs to do more and Martial again need's to be playing at a better level. There is no doubt there is talent in Rashford/Martial but when you see what Son is doing at Spurs and what Mane is doing at Liverpool why aren't they being talked in that bracket?
Walker is much better then AWB it has to be said and Gareth Southgate see's it the same way. Maguire for 80m still need's to prove his is capable of getting the rave reviews like Laporte does. KDB/Gundogan again would start over Pogba and any of them other midfielders any day only Bruno come's close but still has a lot to prove yet.
If all are fully fit, and perhaps depending on the opposition, I'd say it'd be:
Ndombele - Hojberg
-------- Lo Celso.
Are you the legendary Glaston?
Greenwood for all his potential is still a kid. Mahrez would start over him. Gundagon and Rodri is better than Fred and McT. Pogba , for all his hype still hasn't delivered for us. Yes a working Pogba- Bruno - Fred is probably one of the best but that doesn't exist .
Shaw would start over Mendy but he is hardly fit.
And Mendy is?
Sorry but I couldn't disagree more with every single thing you've just typed
That's fine and you are free to disagree.
Mendy is shit as well but we hardly have a brilliant option either.
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Mahrez would start over Greenwood surely that's something you can agree with him on? From a neutral point of view I can say Greenwood is a great talent but that is what were talking about vs a Premier League Winner.
No ... that would be my elder sister.
You've pretty much just said what I already wrote...
City have a better all round attack although without Aguero it's much closer. Bruno would 100% start over Gundogan (the fact you've said that makes me wonder how impartial you are) who is hardly loved by City fans - just head over to Blue Moon and they are far from happy with him and Rodri. There isn't a huge gap on an individual level when you look across the first team squads, especially now Fernandinho is past his prime, Silva has gone and Kompany too. I expect this to change next transfer window but currently they are probably as weak on paper as they have been for a few years in my mind.
I'm not a Spurs fan but is Mou's first choice not the below?
----------Sissoko --- Hojberg--------
----Ndombele OR Lo Celso------
I was hoping he'd score that pen so I could make another smart alec comment.
Still 36 mins for that though
See post #43
Joint 11 for all 3
De Gea
Walker Toby Laporte Reguilon
Hojberg
De Bruyne Bruno
Sterling Kane Son
5 Spurs
4 City
2 Utd
De Gea
Walker Toby Laporte Reguilon
Hojberg
De Bruyne Bruno
Sterling Kane Son
5 Spurs
4 City
2 Utd
This.
Though I dont see what is so special about Citys squad anymore, KDB apart.
As for spurs, our squad is miles ahead of theirs. Kane and Son howver are miles above anything we have, that's the difference.
Nail on the head for me
That doesn't answer my question. I would have thought given Mou's setup - Sissoko & Hojberg start as the 2 and then you have to drop one of Lo Celso or N'Dombele
So you are then, nice to meet you such a legend here. Hope this time you'd stay a bit longer than usual
Well, that's your opinion. Mine is that, with all players fully fit, Ndombele plays with Hojberg, with Lo Celso ahead of them and Hojberg mainly sitting back at all times.
I was asking you a question not giving you an opinion but understood if you think Sissoko drops out, I always thought Ndombele was better a bit more forward but interesting to hear. As said, I'm not a Spurs fan so no reason not to beleive you.
City's squad has become ridiculously overrated the past year.
I think we're clearly on a similar level.
I would agree with the premise.
I think we're clearly on a similar level.
I would agree with the premise.
I would expect Sissoko to remain in for the big games at least, Jose has always liked that kind of physical presence in midfield who is there purely to carry out team orders.
Just imagine a fanbase so toxic, that when one of our own argues that we are better than City and Spurs, another one of our own not only argues with him, but also starts a thread to try and out him to other United supporters. Shame on your @Strelok
City and Livepool have better squads. We have slightly better than Spurs. Then comes Chelsea and others
Im guessing comparing the best in the league on form atm to United? I understand given table position City is a much better comparison however.Also why are we including Spurs
I'd go with this, although the keeper is a 50/50 for me with Ederson. Alderweireld having a bit of a renaissance under Jose, on form needs to be selected.
As for the three squads, the midfields for all three teams are good without being great, really cannot separate them. Spurs have it in attack, I'd say it is only a matter of time before Bale gets back some of his mojo, Kane, Son, Bale will be one of the better attacks in Europe. Defence, flip a coin, I think the managerial influence plays a big part here, Spurs have the tightest defence in the league atm.
Son was already one of the best LW in the world for a few seasons in case you don't know. Can you name 5 LW better than him?
Last season tbh I don't watch him much but I've been keeping an eye on him for a few seasons. He's a very completed player. Our Rashford is a very good player but his game is pretty limited. And Rashford is inconsistent while Son is consistent. His takeon 1v1 is better than Rashford, a very good passer and most of the time his decision making is spot on. While our Rashford, God bless him doesn't often get things right. His passing is pretty meth as well. Son can shoot or pass really well with both feets while our Rashford can only shoot or pass well with his right. Son is also stronger, has better balance and keep the ball better, it's very difficult to take the ball off him.
Anyway, we're talking about the current squad. Current form does count I think?
Good summary. I agree, I think.
Son wasn't in the same unsustainably brilliant form as he is at the moment, sure, but I don't think Rashford has ever been better. Son has been one of the best wingers in the league for a few seasons now. Recently, he's been one of the top 10 players in the PL in any position. And I'm a neutral observer with no dog in the fight.
On stats from last season Rashford and Son are very close, Rashford had 17 goals and 7 assists, Son had 11 goals and 10 assists. I can see why people want to compare them. This season, yeah Son has been on hot form, but Grealish imo has been better on the left for Villa.
I agree with all of these except the third. Moura and Lamela are squad players for a top 6 team and they wouldn't even be there if they weren't such energetic bulldogs. They offer far more in the way of commitment and running around than they do in skill. Bergwijn also hasn't shown too much thus far.
Greenwood alone has the raw potential to smash all three aforementioned. And I don't watch much Utd but I was under the impression that James is a tidy player as well.
Fair enough. I'm not going to disavow that because frankly Son has become somewhat overrated (temporarily, due to recency bias). I don't mean that he's not a fantastic player because he obviously is, but too many people seem to be extrapolating backwards from the clear outlier that has been the last quarter-season, in which he's been scoring at an unsustainable rate.
By the end of next season, he'll be back to being rated fairly as a great attacker rather than in the conversation for the best player in Europe.
De Gea
AWB - Toby - Maguire - Regulion
Hojberg - Pogba
Rashford - Bruno - Son
Kane
De Gea
Walker - Maguire - Laporte - Telles
De Bruyne - Fred
Mahrez - Bruno - Rashford
Aguero
probably something like that would be my combined sides.
AWB - Toby - Maguire - Regulion
Hojberg - Pogba
Rashford - Bruno - Son
Kane
De Gea
Walker - Maguire - Laporte - Telles
De Bruyne - Fred
Mahrez - Bruno - Rashford
Aguero
probably something like that would be my combined sides.
Rashford over Sterling?
Yeah for me anyway. Any big game I’d fancy Rashford to score over Sterling any day of the week.
Their fans would take AWB, Pogba & Bruno. That would probably be it.
Maguire should be nowhere near
What difference does it make if he's won a PL? Nicky Butt won a PL (lots of them) was he better than Gerrard?
Are you trying to suggest Greenwood is better at RW than Mahrez?
Depressing isn't it?
Remember when you were at school and nobody would ever hear a bad word against their own club. Its the other way around now.