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Its a clear red, Casemiro's the idiot.
You can if it's against usThis is why it's a red, you can't fly in with with a stretched leg and studs showing like this even if you get the ball.
He wasn't falling. He was already on the floor. Falling is when you're slipping or tumbling/sliding and it hits your arm. If you're in control of your body (he was clearly in control as he wasn't in motion) then it's a handball.He was on his way down. It will never be given nowadays.
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There will be no penalty if:
- the ball touches a player's hand/arm immediately from their own head/body/foot or the head/body/foot of another player.
- the ball touches a player's hand/arm close to their body and has not made their silhouette unnaturally bigger.
- a player is falling and the ball touches their hand/arm when it is between their body and the ground (but not extended to make the body bigger).
- additionally, should the goalkeeper attempt to clear a ball from a teammate but fails, the goalkeeper is allowed to handle the ball.
Studs are facing down if anything?This is why it's a red, you can't fly in with with a stretched leg and studs showing like this even if you get the ball.
It should still be a pen if they fall as well. That’s on them for fecking up. The rule is bollocks.That silly falling to the ground rule can't be used bebcause he didn't fall he dropped himself down and toyslly misjudged jt
It's an easy pen
Which would be acceptable if the ref looked at both like he did the red.Clear red card , neither were penalties
is what rival supporters will be saying.
This is my point.Whoever was in charge of showing VAR replay made sure to help Taylor decide by showing a replay right from the moment Casemiro hit the leg. No idea how it qualifies for a "clear and obvious error".
The problem with the handball was the decision not to even have VAR check. I could be convinced that it was unintentional or natural. But not that it didn't deserve to be reviewed.Don't think it was a handball, was shot towards him and he stopped the ball with his body anyway, it also hitting his hand on the way down didn't really change the direction of the ball nor keep it from us.
That tackle on Bruno was definitely a pen. Ridiculous that he didn't spend longer looking at it.
Case one is silly. It's orange. Am fine with a red being given, but also didn't feel it was a clear and obvious error. For many other teams it wouldn't have been looked at. But it makes for a great storyline when it's us.
Feels even more unfair since since his red earlier in the season shouldn't have been a red, and he now misses an extra match due to it.
Are you kidding? There's challenges like these every game, it's unfortunate for him his foot bounces off the ball. If a red is bandied for this, might as well tell us to start the game with 10 men.This is why it's a red, you can't fly in with with a stretched leg and studs showing like this even if you get the ball.
I’m not convinced tbh. I’ve watched it back a few times now.He wasn't falling. He was already on the floor. Falling is when you're slipping or tumbling/sliding and it hits your arm. If you're in control of your body (he was clearly in control as he wasn't in motion) then it's a handball.
His studs are nowhere near his foot. Are you having a laugh?This is why it's a red, you can't fly in with with a stretched leg and studs showing like this even if you get the ball.
This is my question as well. His foot hits the ball then ricochets into his leg. How is that a red?His foot bounced off the ball
Wonder how SAF could absolutely lay into the ref and FA. We really need ETH to do the same. No more sugar coating this nonsense.Appeal this fecking shit. I don't care if they ban Casemiro for 10 more games, an example has to be set that we won't keep quiet with this bullshit anymore. You can't just pick and choose what rules are you going to set on a given day and against which team. Never a red, penalties all day long, but if this was reversed, it would have never been given for us.
I want Ten Hag to lay on these cnuts because evidently Klopp and Guardiola's consistent whining actually works. As long as we keep quiet and take it up the chin, they'll always screw us more and more.
Yes and the Southampton player's challenge causes the ball to trap between them and his foot bounces.Studs are facing down if anything?
He’s not falling though. He’s standing on all fours for an extended time. It’s not very natural to be stood like that unless you’re a cat or other four-legged animal. Last time I checked, Southampton doesn’t have any four-legged animals playing at the back for them.He was on his way down. It will never be given nowadays.
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There will be no penalty if:
- the ball touches a player's hand/arm immediately from their own head/body/foot or the head/body/foot of another player.
- the ball touches a player's hand/arm close to their body and has not made their silhouette unnaturally bigger.
- a player is falling and the ball touches their hand/arm when it is between their body and the ground (but not extended to make the body bigger).
- additionally, should the goalkeeper attempt to clear a ball from a teammate but fails, the goalkeeper is allowed to handle the ball.
That's why we need to hear the conversations and the first question should be hey ref what did you see there? Let them explain what they thought happened first. That's the only way you can then judge well he hasn't seen what happened so it's a clear and obvious mistakeThis is my point.
Taylor was positioned well. He saw the challenge and he must have seen Casemiro go over the ball and catch him because otherwise he would never have given a yellow.
VAR then get involved and tell him what? Yes he did see the challenge, yes he saw him catch the players shin but he was wrong to give just a yellow?
That is NOT clear and obvious.
And then they'll often be criticised for making correct decisions that go in our favour. As we saw after the City game.100% bang on. They only time you'll ever hear refs being criticised in a game involving United is when the benficiaries of a decision have been us as we saw after the City game
Yes you can show studs playing the ball, he was not endangering the opponent. Another independent event caused him to make contact with the opponent... This is not a red card. And the most ridiculous of it all is VAR intervening and claiming it was a "clear and obvious error" not to send him off.This is why it's a red, you can't fly in with with a stretched leg and studs showing like this even if you get the ball.
Yes, you've said it yourself right there. He's FALLEN. Not falling. There is no rules to apply when a player has fallen and is getting back up. It's an interpretation of the rules, which again will differ depending on which ref you get and that's the entire problem.I’m not convinced tbh. I’ve watched it back a few times now.
He’s fallen and his hand is planting on the ground in a natural way you would support your fall. I didn’t think he tried to make himself bigger. He even tries to pull his arm away when the ball hits it.
All it’s and buts but I just don’t see them giving that with that particular rule.
But i dont think he's in control if that other event cause him to cath their player half way up the shin.Yes you can show studs playing the ball, he was not endangering the opponent. Another independent event caused him to make contact with the opponent... This is not a red card. And the most ridiculous of it all is VAR intervening and claiming it was a "clear and obvious error" not to send him off.
This. He was t falling he was on his hands and knees when he handled it and it looked intentional. Penalty all day longHe wasn't falling. He was already on the floor. Falling is when you're slipping or tumbling/sliding and it hits your arm. If you're in control of your body (he was clearly in control as he wasn't in motion) then it's a handball.
Wait, Marriner was the VAR ref in the Leicester/Chelsea game?How can Marriner ask Taylor to look for the red and yet in the Chelsea game yesterday he didn't give a single red with a lot more dangerous tackles taking place?
They're dodgy as feck.
Ricardo came down with his studs on Felix ankle and it wasn’t even a yellow, possibly because it was in literally the first minute of the game.When there's a similar incident next week in another match it won't get given
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Probably plays a major part in him recommending red today. He made a mistake yesterday and won't want to do it again. But that leads to the inconsistencyWait, Marriner was the VAR ref in the Leicester/Chelsea game?
Alright, that's a bit more dodgy given the challenges in that game.
He got kneed by the goalieHow does the ref not book rashford for a dive there