VAR and Refs | General Discussion

[arnie_ni]

I'm not defending the ref for the actual decision, it was the wrong call. What I'm saying is that as long as he thought it was a foul then it was the right call to blow his whistle.

Tackles are usually not black and white to be decided by VAR like potential offsides would be.

Ah fair enough

 

[Fr. Todd Unctious]

The media would have had an absolute meltdown if that had of benefitted us

 

[HackeyC]

Balls are round, pretty sure it was still in.

 

[cyberman]

That should be a red for Fabinho feck me

 

[Bubz27]

They've shown more replays of Casemiro's offside than they did of the ball going out within 5 seconds.

Where the feck have they drawn the blue line? It's clear as day offside and they've made it an absolute mess.

 

[Di Maria's angel]

Oh, so it works?

 

[Pexbo]

That should be a red for Fabinho feck me

Good luck with that

 

[Dan_F]

Nice waste of three minutes. I know they have to draw the lines etc but fecking hell.

 

[Drainy]

Bitter comment obviously, but the ball was just as over as he was offside

 

[Telsim]

2 minutes to check a 5 feet offside.

 

[cyberman]

Good luck with that

Most obvious red I’ve seen all year. Literally jumps into it as well.
I’m flabbergasted

 

[One Night Only]

Nice waste of three minutes. I know they have to draw the lines etc but fecking hell.

They don't have to if you can see it from the international space station.

 

[dannyrhinos89]

Oh, so it works?

Var does work, sadly its the humans behind it that malfunction.

 

[Bubz27]

Offside

 

[shaggy]

They've shown more replays of Casemiro's offside than they did of the ball going out within 5 seconds.

Where the feck have they drawn the blue line? It's clear as day offside and they've made it an absolute mess.

I didn't understand the blue line either. There didn't look like any West Ham player near it

 

[90 + 5min]

We know how we are treated and have been for a while. Nothing strange. I’m still waiting for the club to officially come out with a we’ve had enough - statement.

 

[cyberman]

I didn't understand the blue line either. There didn't look like any West Ham player near it

There’s a foot hidden behind Casemiro

 

[Pexbo]

So Bruno delicately touching a players arm is enough for a penalty.

A defender pushing two hands across Garnacho is “never enough contact”.

Can we just have a bit of consistency?

 

[cyberman]

Now nailed on second yellow that Fabinho didn’t receive.
It’s always Fabinho

 

[Nick7]

Every week is a new low with these refs.

 

[Berbasbullet]

So Bruno delicately touching a players arm is enough for a penalty.

A defender pushing two hands across Garnacho is “never enough contact”.

Can we just have a bit of consistency?

This! Does my head in it's all just made up.

 

[TheReligion]

At this point it’s a joke

The ball clearly out of play for the West Ham goal.

ITV have footage that shows it perfectly yet we are supposed to believe VAR doesn’t?

Utter bollocks

 

[calodo2003]

Balls are round, pretty sure it was still in.

+1

 

[Sandikan]

Pretty clear that ball was out but we'll hear nothing about it as we won.

 

[cyberman]

https://streamin.me/v/71842a61
I’m actually annoyed by this. Fabinho in all his glory

 

[90 + 5min]

https://streamin.me/v/71842a61
I’m actually annoyed by this. Fabinho in all his glory

He is immune to red cards. I've rarely seen a player having so much luck. He should have about 5-6 red cards already this season.

 

[TheReligion]

Pretty clear that ball was out but we'll hear nothing about it as we won.

Yeah that angle behind the goal showed the green grass between the ball and the line.

Its at the point now where I just don’t trust it at all. I don’t like to cry cheat but what else can it be?

 

[Annihilate Now!]

Ball was probably in play, offside was clear, so no real qualms there.

But... Can someone clarify what constitutes a yellow card? Cos fecked if this ref has a clue

 

[mctrials23]

Ball was probably in play, offside was clear, so no real qualms there.

But... Can someone clarify what constitutes a yellow card? Cos fecked if this ref has a clue

I think the main thing is whether it was a United player who committed the foul. First half Maguire went to ask the ref that very question. 2 yellows for breaking up attacks with cynical/clumsy tackles and then they do exactly the same thing to stop Garnacho and nothing.

As you say, their goal was fine and the offside was fine, just baffling card decisions.

 

[Cassanata99]

The ball for the West Ham goal was most likely still in play. Do you guys not remember the world cup match between Japan and Spain? Similar thing happened. The entirety of the ball has to be over the line when viewed from a bird's-eye perspective. VAR probably had this angle to work with when making their decision.

 

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[The Purley King]

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Weirdly the var angle makes it look in. I wasn’t outraged at the time given that picture that we saw.
Turns out I was wrong!

 

[Sylar]

The above isn't the best angle either. You need the view from above as it's a ball, it's a spherical shape (like you see with goal line technology)

I am not too annoyed that this wasn't given and they went with refs on field call. It's frustrating but it's not 109% conclusive. The players stopping and not playing to the whistle was annoying .

The way the ref gave yellow cards was annoying especially the few he missed giving them on same situations that lead to us getting a few.

 

[Berbaclass]

The above isn't the best angle either. You need the view from above as it's a ball, it's a spherical shape (like you see with goal line technology)

I am not too annoyed that this wasn't given and they went with refs on field call. It's frustrating but it's not 109% conclusive. The players stopping and not playing to the whistle was annoying .

The way the ref gave yellow cards was annoying especially the few he missed giving them on same situations that lead to us getting a few.

That angle is pretty conclusive IMO

 

[Annihilate Now!]

That angle is pretty conclusive IMO

Is it? Just reminds me of the Japan/Spain decision to be honest. The furthest side of the ball could definitely still be over the line, even if its by 1mm.

 

[Berbaclass]

Is it? Just reminds me of the Japan/Spain decision to be honest. The furthest side of the ball could definitely still be over the line, even if its by 1mm.

I think so yeah. You can see a clear gap side on.

 

[RedDevil@84]

Weirdly the var angle makes it look in. I wasn’t outraged at the time given that picture that we saw.
Turns out I was wrong!

No. The ball is spherical. You need to look from above to be sure. If that angle is not there, for whatever reason, it cannot be ruled out.

 

[Berbaclass]

I don’t understand why they don’t have cameras that cover each touchline. We’ve had two questionable decisions like this coincidentally both against West Ham.

It can’t be hard to have a camera parallel to each touchline.

 

[Jeppers7]

No. The ball is spherical. You need to look from above to be sure. If that angle is not there, for whatever reason, it cannot be ruled out.

How would looking at it from above be any different? There is a line of green visible between the edge of the ball and the white line all the way up the touch line. How would that be the case if any part of the ball met the line ? From any angle the line of green would stop existing at the point of contact between ball and line

 

[Pexbo]

How would looking at it from above be any different? There is a line of green visible between the edge of the ball and the white line all the way up the touch line. How would that be the case if any part of the ball met the line ? From any angle the line of green would stop existing at the point of contact between ball and line

Yeah but the ball is spherical