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Just the Lamptey situation with Raya is more of a penalty than either ones givwn to Chelsea against United. Lamptey didn’t even shout for a pen. Pitiful refereeing.
He touched it rather than winning it as such maybe. I'm not really sure.What's the criteria for "winning the ball"?
He throws a leg out and gets the ball but it's still a foul? He makes contact with the ball well before the player. He doesn't go through the player to get the ball. It was ball then man.
Yeah, he simply gets too little of the ball. Despite Lamptey’s touch, Jesus is still going past him, and then Lamptey completely swipes his legs. Clear penalty.He touched it rather than winning it as such maybe. I'm not really sure.
Wolves have been screwed over so many times this season by VAR. Probably more than most teams.And … who cares? Worth it to get some attention on it.
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There will be players across the land utterly smashing someone having skimmed the ball and furiously drooling "i got the ball" to the ref.What's the criteria for "winning the ball"?
He throws a leg out and gets the ball but it's still a foul? He makes contact with the ball well before the player. He doesn't go through the player to get the ball. It was ball then man.
He didn't smash him, it was a normal tackle. What more could he have done there?There will be players across the land utterly smashing someone having skimmed the ball and furiously drooling "i got the ball" to the ref.
Skimming it doesn't mean you've won it.
And my comments are in no way related to us needing Arsenal to win to keep the pressure up on Liverpool, or because I have Saka in my fantasy team!
We have been treated even worse. It is just that when it happens against us people love to not talk about it.Wolves have been screwed over so many times this season by VAR. Probably more than most teams.
I understand an overly aggressive/reckless tackle getting a foul called despite winning the ball but this wasn't one of those. It was just an outstretched leg, no aggression in it and it catches the ball first.There will be players across the land utterly smashing someone having skimmed the ball and furiously drooling "i got the ball" to the ref.
Skimming it doesn't mean you've won it.
And my comments are in no way related to us needing Arsenal to win to keep the pressure up on Liverpool, or because I have Saka in my fantasy team!
Doku apparently touched the ball before hitting MacAllister in the chest.What's the criteria for "winning the ball"?
He throws a leg out and gets the ball but it's still a foul? He makes contact with the ball well before the player. He doesn't go through the player to get the ball. It was ball then man.
Winning the ball I'd say means either yourself or your team mate get the ball, or you at least get a much firmer contact.He didn't smash him, it was a normal tackle. What more could he have done there?
Stand his ground, uses his body to reduce Jesus chance to shoot and not swipe his leg brainlesslyHe didn't smash him, it was a normal tackle. What more could he have done there?
Just touching a ball hasn't been enough to classify as "winning" the ball for a fair old while though has it?I understand an overly aggressive/reckless tackle getting a foul called despite winning the ball but this wasn't one of those. It was just an outstretched leg, no aggression in it and it catches the ball first.
He didn't win the ball and Jesus would have retained posession and been heading towards goal, if he wasn't taken out. Clearly a pen.I understand an overly aggressive/reckless tackle getting a foul called despite winning the ball but this wasn't one of those. It was just an outstretched leg, no aggression in it and it catches the ball first.
Grazing the ball doesn't give you license to commit a foul.I understand an overly aggressive/reckless tackle getting a foul called despite winning the ball but this wasn't one of those. It was just an outstretched leg, no aggression in it and it catches the ball first.
Dalot made contact with his arm. He was nowhere near the ball so the ref probably felt it would be a foul anywhere else on the pitch. In this case Lamptey actually makes enough contact to lift the ball and away from Jesus. He also didn't violently collide with him, just a normal follow through. I think it's subjective at worst, and in no way stonewall.Winning the ball I'd say means either yourself or your team mate get the ball, or you at least get a much firmer contact.
Not a slight touch on it, felling your opponent who then can't get it.
Let me ask you, did you think Dalot tripping over his arse and felling matey on Thursday was a pen?
I meant in that moment. He swiped low and went for the ball as well as minimizing risk of injury to the player. It was a good tackle, just slightly under the ball given the timing and pace of the moment.Stand his ground, uses his body to reduce Jesus chance to shoot and not swipe his leg brainlessly
Well he took the chance and it went horribly wrong.Dalot made contact with his arm. He was nowhere near the ball so the ref probably felt it would be a foul anywhere else on the pitch. In this case Lamptey actually makes enough contact to lift the ball and away from Jesus. He also didn't violently collide with him, just a normal follow through. I think it's subjective at worst, and in no way stonewall.
I meant in that moment. He swiped low and went for the ball as well as minimizing risk of injury to the player. It was a good tackle, just slightly under the ball given the timing and pace of the moment.
Yep. Well, if memory serves Doku didn't even get a touch in the end, but either way VAR justified not giving it because they thought he got a very, very slight touch.Doku apparently touched the ball before hitting MacAllister in the chest.
Despite it being against Liverpool and funny, it’s still a foul.
(edit. Which your next post sort of covers)
Ball or man first is a red herring
Probably a pen. The only thing I can see (and oddly looks clearer on the faraway angle) is he stops his swinging leg just at the point of contact?Well he took the chance and it went horribly wrong.
No idea how anyone can watch that and think "nah he got the ball for me"
It’s a peno for sure.Well he took the chance and it went horribly wrong.
No idea how anyone can watch that and think "nah he got the ball for me"
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Do you think thats a pen? And do you think the ref decisions favoured you?You could have posted a picture of a cat and it would have as much relevance; Completely differents situations and type of challenges.
The Doku one ? I could understand giving it and not giving it. To me it's a high foot but Doku is also focused and watching the ball, i don't think he intends to clean his studs on McAlister. His intent probably don't matter if there is more force than that. It's a very grey area.Do you think thats a pen? And do you think the ref decisions favoured you?
Yeah I said this a month or two ago, and to see it keep happening to them is pretty gross. GON has done a great job with them and were it not for ridiculous decisions they'd probably be neck and neck with Utd, which I suppose is a saving grace for us, but still, it's gross how badly VAR has screwed them.Wolves have been screwed over so many times this season by VAR. Probably more than most teams.
Us not getting ridiculous decisions we would potentially have at least 15 points more.Yeah I said this a month or two ago, and to see it keep happening to them is pretty gross. GON has done a great job with them and were it not for ridiculous decisions they'd probably be neck and neck with Utd, which I suppose is a saving grace for us, but still, it's gross how badly VAR has screwed them.
Even if you discount the potential penalty at Utd.Yeah I said this a month or two ago, and to see it keep happening to them is pretty gross. GON has done a great job with them and were it not for ridiculous decisions they'd probably be neck and neck with Utd, which I suppose is a saving grace for us, but still, it's gross how badly VAR has screwed them.
This is it i think :Is there a clip of the Palace incident againstCity115 Charges FC?
Doesn’t really matter, it’s not going to change anything.Is there a clip of the Palace incident againstCity115 Charges FC?
Very similar to the one we had against Burnley when Evans(?) has one disallowed when the keeper was never going to save it regardless.That Wolves offside was just such a poor decision. The ref should have had the balls to allow it after seeing it on the monitor
That disallowed goal literally came to my mind too.Very similar to the one we had against Burnley when Evans(?) has one disallowed when the keeper was never going to save it regardless.
Poor.