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No but you don't seem to be engaging with the point I'm making. Anyway take it easyI never said its too soft to be given
No but you don't seem to be engaging with the point I'm making. Anyway take it easyI never said its too soft to be given
It hit his upper arm, not his hand and he's already moving it towards his body before the cross. It's bonkers to give it, especially considering what happened yesterday between Chelsea and City, but with the vast majority of handballs and VAR it's always going to be a case of VAR, in 99% of the time, not overturning a decision.Ball hits his hand. He moved his hand towards himself which happens to also be towards the path of the ball. This case it not a case where imo you can say its clearly not a pen.
Likewise if it wasn’t given I don’t think VAR can give it.
Should have been overturned. VAR needs to bin clear and obvious. It’s not a pen.I never said its too soft to be given
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What point are you making? I made a point and you decided to respondNo but you don't seem to be engaging with the point I'm making. Anyway take it easy
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Thereby making his body smaller and putting his arm back into a natural position. Movement started before the strike of the ball also which eliminates it being deliberate.Ball hits his hand. He moved his hand towards himself which happens to also be towards the path of the ball. This case it not a case where imo you can say its clearly not a pen.
Likewise if it wasn’t given I don’t think VAR can give it.
Yeah that's how it works. I was pretty clear so no not going to go into it again.What point are you making? I made a point and you decided to respond
Or maybe I just disagreed with your point as I kept saying?Yeah that's how it works. I was pretty clear so no not going to go into it again.
Yes but that's been going on for years. Post Ferguson really, it's been like a non United fan catharsis and revenge missionIt was the non pen against wolves and the media outrage after it. Yes that was the start of the season and yes it's still going on.
We have got to the stage where the same decision can have two different outcomes depending on the on field decision. It’s just complete madnessGet rid of “clear and obvious”. It is an utter farce and completely removes any consistency in decision making, which is what VAR should provide.
Very harsh decision on AWB today. Moves his arm into his body specifically to try and make himself as small as possible and still has a penalty given against him. Even with the nonsense of “clear and obvious”, that should have been overturned.
Yep, I’d say the fact that he’s moving his arm towards his body before the cross comes in actually makes it quite a cut and dry decision - shouldn’t be a penalty and thus an obvious error. I can’t see any other interpretation based on the current rules - even moreso when you see the actual ones not given recently. Mind boggling.Thereby making his body smaller and putting his arm back into a natural position. Movement started before the strike of the ball also which eliminates it being deliberate.
It's an erroneous handball decision, against the current IFAB rules and substantially beyond the current VAR test for an intervention (clear and obvious error).
Awful officiating.
Young for all 3 He must've been thinking "How the feck..." when the 3rd one wasn't given.The 3 non-penalty decisions:
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I think the handball would be a bit harsh, he's pretty close and can't really react. The challenges though, he's very very "lucky" to escape both.
WTF?!No one saying this, but that Coventry goal should have stood (and we would have has no complaints losing that game 4-3). If that same call had gone against a United equalizer we would all have been livid.
Time for someone to actually make it so that you judge a player on or offside by where the feet are (not random body parts)... it sounds so simple, but it would fix 99% of the bogus offside calls.
His foot was offsideYoung for all 3 He must've been thinking "How the feck..." when the 3rd one wasn't given.
Too busy hosting social media influencers to bother complaining to league officials and media.How have the club stayed silent all season? It’s an odd amount of decisions going us this season and needs calling out.
You're invoking the secret pity-goal-because-small-club rule?No one saying this, but that Coventry goal should have stood (and we would have has no complaints losing that game 4-3).
He did say it was a bad decision, and I have to say he also made the best commebt I've heard in ages, one time when Wright I thunk it was just ran past Casemiro Dixon said " Casemiro's pulling a caravan"Dixon has basically been a Coventry fan
Sorry that's bollocks, in real time it looked offside, close but off, and the commentary said as such when the first replay came upNo one saying this, but that Coventry goal should have stood (and we would have has no complaints losing that game 4-3). If that same call had gone against a United equalizer we would all have been livid.
Time for someone to actually make it so that you judge a player on or offside by where the feet are (not random body parts)... it sounds so simple, but it would fix 99% of the bogus offside calls.
Why would a goal that was proven to be offside stand?No one saying this, but that Coventry goal should have stood (and we would have has no complaints losing that game 4-3). If that same call had gone against a United equalizer we would all have been livid.
Time for someone to actually make it so that you judge a player on or offside by where the feet are (not random body parts)... it sounds so simple, but it would fix 99% of the bogus offside calls.
He'll just use that same line he used last time about how united fans will want him to say no pen and Coventry will say penHope they have both the City and Utd handballs on ref watch tomorrow, I wanna see what lengths Dermott goes to to justify both decisions
They have to get some proper rules on this handball business and apply it to the rules.Grealish yesterday no penalty - when he moved his hand towards the ball
AWB today penalty - when he moved his hand towards his body.
The thinking behind all this from VAR and refs is as follows:
''Oh what a game, and Coventry deserve the draw, and let's make this game more interesting and maybe go to penalties - OH, and it's Manchester United so give the bloody penalty and to hell with them!''
Or he’s advised them?Listening to Gary Neville's comments about Mark Clattenberg I think he is right, Forest have put him in a really bad position with their tweets today, he would be right to resign and walk away.
He was at the game so you have to assume he was aware of the tweet. Though I don’t agree with the original official NFFC tweet it has garnered a lot of attention and a lot of support from fans of other clubs so maybe pulling the pin on this particular hand grenade was not so mad a call.Or he’s advised them?