VAR Decisions - PL 19/20 Season

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Are you in favour of VAR in the PL?

Poll closed Friday at 18:44.
  1. Yes

    73.6%
  2. No

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  1. Aug 9, 2019
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    edcunited1878 Full Member

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    Thought it would be interesting to track what the VAR decisions will be during the first league campaign and how they impact each match then with time, VARs impact on the title, European cup places and relegation...and of course the amount of penos Smalling will give away from shirt grabbing, because that's all the rage.

    Update - PL Table according to VAR: https://withoutvar.com
    Last edited: Aug 11, 2019
  2. Aug 9, 2019
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    Big Andy Is really a midget

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    Hopefully Liverpool get stung badly this year with it, to make up for their fecking luck last season...
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    Big Andy Is really a midget

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    I'm all for it if it works quickly...

    If it takes fecking ages, then feck off...
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    Berbaclass Full Member

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    The time doesn’t really bother me, they’ll just add extra on at the end. The main thing is they use it correctly and come to the correct decision.
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    esmufc07 Won the Grand National Sweepstake once Scout

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    I think I read an article where where average decision time was about 83 seconds.
  6. Aug 9, 2019
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    ForestRGoinUp New Member

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    Good thread. VAR is a major turnoff for me personally. Dread the thought of more penalties (free goals), overturned goals by millimeters offside (no advantage), VAR chants in stadiums, and the punditry filling up all their time discussing rules changes that VAR brings about.

    More than anything else about the upcoming season, I want to be wrong about all this, but feel pretty confident I won’t be.
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    roseguy64 Full Member

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    sullydnl Ross Kemp's caf ID

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    Wonder if we could get a poll asking if people are in favour of PL VAR before the season starts? Would be interesting to see how it changes by the end of the season.
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    ForestRGoinUp New Member

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    Good shout.
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    Jacko21 Full Member

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    R'hllor Full Member

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    Was always for VAR as a system but have a feeling it will be a shit show in PL, wont much change if those in front of monitor are on same incompetent level as those who ref the game on the pitch.
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    edcunited1878 Full Member

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    One thing that will be annoying is players who stop playing, similar to when they raise their arm for offsides, and run to the ref and gesticulate for VAR all while they should continue to play through a stoppage. Or players surrounding the ref and appealing for VAR.

    I think we all just want a high level of consistency...and hopefully there's a referee tracker where we can say, okay, this linesman/lineswoman is shit or really good and his ref has been overturned X amount of times.
  14. Aug 9, 2019
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    sullydnl Ross Kemp's caf ID

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    @Damien could you magic up a poll please?
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    Damien Self-Aware RedCafe Database (and Admin) Staff

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    Done.
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    sullydnl Ross Kemp's caf ID

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    Thanks!
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    MsNuno Full Member

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    Dreading it still think mistakes will be made and there'll be too many stoppages, whilst checking.
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    FireballXL5 New Member

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    Agree. The delays are going to seriously piss people off.
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    esmufc07 Won the Grand National Sweepstake once Scout

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    I think the offside rule needs to be looked at again. Whilst offside is offside and there's no room for error, VAR will lead to some ridiculously tight calls.

    I think there should be more space allowed between the attacker and the last defender. Perhaps so long as any part of the body is in an onside position then it can be classed as onside? So if a strikers foot is onside but the rest of his body is 'offside' I then he can be deemed as on. I know this sort of reverses the harshness of offside, but the benefit should be to the attacker (I think so anyway).
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    esmufc07 Won the Grand National Sweepstake once Scout

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    I think Neville made a good point last night when he said if you consider the fact that every offside decision will be correct going forward then that is a massive plus.

    Don't expect this to run smoothly as it's still a new system and there'll no doubt be mistakes and frustrations along the way, but I'm glad it has been implemented and I think for the most part it will benefit the game.
  21. Aug 10, 2019
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    ForestRGoinUp New Member

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    Agree with this so much. The conversation needs to start here anyway or we’re going to be disallowing goals where no advantage was being gained (City winner v Spurs in CL).
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    ForestRGoinUp New Member

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    It’s like saying every driver who goes a fraction over the limit will get a ticket. There are too many instances, under the current offside rule, where the attacker has gained no advantage (i.e. an elbow is offside) yet he would still be penalized.
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    MonkeysMagic Full Member

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    I hope Ole has taken Smalling to one side and explained to him the perils of his defending at corners! Hopefully McGuire/Lindelof pairing means we don't see much of Smalling anyway.
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    Samid follows Pogue around, fixing his images

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    This will be fun.
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    ForestRGoinUp New Member

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    That was overturned? You see the stadium now cheering the VAR screen like it’s their Wizard of Oz? Pretty ugly stuff
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    Slevs likes to play with penises

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    That's a ridiculous offside call.
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    chb23 New Member

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    Insane, that would've been a great team goal
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    ivaldo Mediocre Horse Whisperer, s'up wid chew?

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    It's ridiculous that the player offside was given offside? Travesty!
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    ForestRGoinUp New Member

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    Always going to be some like you I suppose.
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    ridiculous = right
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    T_Model101 Full Member

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    I thought var was going to be used to overturn clear and obvious errors..?
    Sterling was about 5cm offside
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    Slevs likes to play with penises

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    Smartass.

    His shoulder is 0.00000001mm offside.
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    RedFish Full Member

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    Wholeheartedly agree. It's bonkers as it is.
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    ivaldo Mediocre Horse Whisperer, s'up wid chew?

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    :lol: You mean people who don't cry because the rules are applied correctly? Why am I not surprised to find you bitching about this?
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    Ravelation Krump at me Bro

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    Horrendous, offside by centimetres! What advantage does sterling have with 5cm's, absolutely bonkers decision.
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    ivaldo Mediocre Horse Whisperer, s'up wid chew?

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    So is he on side?
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    cj_sparky Full Member

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    Is that really clear and obvious....that looked millimetres
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    leet New Member

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    I don't like VAR at all in situations like this. It's HORRIBLE to get your goal disallowed for thing like this. Not to mention how VAR took a lot of "enjoyment" out, can't even celebrate goals anymore.
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    Slevs likes to play with penises

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    True, but the margins need to be looked at. What advantage is a mm of his shoulder giving him to be considered offside?
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    esmufc07 Won the Grand National Sweepstake once Scout

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    Every goal scored is checked.