Discussion in 'Football Forum' started by edcunited1878, Aug 9, 2019.
For when the officials make egregious mistakes that are unjust.
But that wont work either. If you introduce a ”leeway”of say a feet or even centimeters, you will just have moved the goalposts and the argument to another baseline.
It actually makes complete sense to have it like it is now if we accept that VAR should be there in the first place.
But that’s the rule, it always has been just now we’ve eliminated human error
VAR can feck off, all the magic is gone.
He can read my post I'm sure.
The worst thing that has ever happened to football.
Another correct decision though. What are you gonna do? Imagine losing the league title because a goalkeeper saves a penalty off his line and there’s no option to review.
For a while I have said the same thing about close offsides calls. I think the bar for offsides during VAR should be that they check the frame chosen as the moment the ball is struck as well as the one before and after. If the player is onsides in any of those three frames it is onside.
I can’t say I disagree with any of the decisions made today (including the re-take of the penalty) but boy is this going to be fun
It only makes sense if you want to destroy the sport. TV subscriptions will be canceled or never purchased.
Totally too much with the pk encroachment, but that’s more to do with the way the law is written.
The point is that they have built a degree of margin of error into the system because if LBWs were given to the nearest centimetre or millimetre then it's not in the spirit of the game.
Similarly, in my view, it's not in the spirit of the game for offsides to be given over such marginal distances. The other VAR decision that has just been given, with the keeper coming miles off his line for a penalty, I'm 100% in favour of being given, because he's cheated, done so deliberately, and gained an unfair advantage.
Overall, I'm pro-VAR, but it has to be implemented with some common sense. In my view, it's not common sense if you're looking at every single goal, and then ruling them out because a player was so marginally offside that it is literally impossible to see it with the naked eye.
No penalty saves this season then.
Nope. There was a time when the rule was clear daylight between the attacker and the defender.
But cricket can't combat a drizzle so lets not go too mad about a different sport
Fair point, and VAR is new so this is something they can consider going forward. It’s going to take a little time to refine the system.
Still prefer my way of doing it, where managers get to challenge a ref decision a certain number of times per game. This checking every little detail constantly is kinda shit.
The NFL model is brilliant but that's been honed over many years and with the game having so many natural breaks, it has the time to explain everything
We'd have to define egregious mistakes, I get you in spirit and hopefully common sense should prevail but a line has to be drawn somewhere.
Well, I'm just giving an example. In my view, decision-making should always be in the spirit of the game. And, in my opinion, it's not in the spirit of the game to give someone offside because their finger is marginally offside, even if you have the technology to do it.
The offside thing is the only thing I have an issue with, there should be a 5cm tolerance or something.
you can't be offside if it's your arm
This is going to be a long-ass thread come the end of the season.
Will VAR be used during penalty shootouts?
Someone should put this in the OP
I'd agree with that, considering how things evolved in football with the new rules, they might tweak its application.
Aren't we going to have the same issue when a player is half a centre beyond it though? I think the offside rule as a whole needs looking at.
So you want to change the offside rule to its OK to be 5 cm ”offside”? Because that is what you are saying. VAR will still rule out goals that are 5,5 cms offside and people will moan over that.
It does not make sense.
Completely ludicrous calls on the Jesus 2nd and Aguero pen
There is no longer a point in celebrating a Premier League goal. That's what VAR has brought us.
Well judging by my annoyance that city had it disallowed...no. I wouldn’t
All for us winning but that just seems ridiculous to me
What's wrong with the Aguero pen ? Encroachment is prohibited, players have been warned, yet it didn't prevent dumb Rice from doing it.
It's hard to see which frame that shows when the ball is played, I'd argue that both city goals that went to var were wrong when the ball was played
It was offside, get over it.
A- it played no part in Aguero missing
B- Rice encroached again when it was retaken even if it was less obvious
VAR is not flawless. Its embarrasing that City won because of an offside goal by Sterling. Before then it was anyone's game. Two Norwich potential opportunities were wrongly flagged offside yesterday so no-VAR isn't the solution either.
Thing is the fairest line to draw is at offside or not. 5 cm tolerance would add subjectivity with some goals accepted and some refused in similar circumstances.
If VAR can clearly show the offside it should be sanctioned. The margin of error where it's impossible to decide is enough.
Shouldn't City's 5th goal have been checked for the foul on the West Ham guy in the build up?
Or was it checked and they thought it wasn't a foul?
That's not part of the rules though. They just don't have to do it, period.
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