Reading this thread almost makes me want the Scouse to win the league, if it's between to two. Almost.
At least they'll have earned it.
At least they'll have earned it.
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Easiest draw again, what a surprise 
Hope Spurs pull a miracle out of the bag and knock em out of the CL
Hope Spurs pull a miracle out of the bag and knock em out of the CL
Money makes the style effective. He's the best around today but he's no SAF. He needs the absolute best to succeed and is suited solely to exceptionally (technically) talented players.
And one season (last year) confirmed nothing. You're clearly just s massive fanboi going by your ardent note for baldy.
What a joke.
Be funny if they messed it all up now
Unlikely though... Easiest draws. Infinite dodgy funds. Most expensive squad ever assembled in football history.Be funny if they messed it all up now
Edit: forgot to mention off side goals and penalties being awarded for diving vs Swansea!
City getting all these easy draws and Liverpool getting a lot of lucky breaks in the league. So infuriating.
Unfortunately no one's gonna remember the easy paths, just the trophies.
Unfortunately no one's gonna remember the easy paths, just the trophies.
That's pathetic.
We're facing PSG, Barcelona, City, Arsenal and Wolves and we're not as good as them.
And I thought the stars were aligning for Livepool this season.
I still think City will retain the title. They won't win the quad though as my money is on Juve for the big pot.
Pep is good coach but very overrated. he had the arguably the best player of of all time and the two best mids of their generation in his first job. he took over jupp heynckes treble winner team and failed to get the CL final 3 years in a row. that's ultimately a failure. most manager could win the bundesliga with the advantages bayern munich has - who could buy their rivals best player nearly every year . hell probably the weakest bayern team in a decade is still leading the table right now. he didn't win anything with the squad pellegrini left behind that just won the league cup previously and reached the semi final of the CL. Then proceeded to spend another 200m ontop of the previous summers spending to win the PL. I think he spend close to half a billion if I'm not mistaken.
Give SAF a blank cheque and he'll do the same. Heck even Klopp spending plenty but less than Pep is matching him this season.
Unless Uefa and the prem end up 'doing a Lance Armstrong' on City somewhere down the line.. Would be reasonably amusing, even if it did hand Pool titles.
I think Porto would've been the easiest draw in the champions league, but there is no denying we have been lucky. It helps also that the other top 6 teams in England didn't take the smaller competitions seriously, at least we played Chelsea in the final. So maybe if Liverpool, for example, took the Carabao cup more seriously we could've seen a City-Liverpool tie. Same applies to the FA Cup.Easiest draw again, what a surprise
Hope Spurs pull a miracle out of the bag and knock em out of the CL
EFL Cup:
Burton (H)
Swansea (A)
Bristol (A)
FA Cup:
Derby (H)
Yeovil (A)
Huddersfield (A)
Brighton (H)
Spurs
Champions League:
Basel
CSKA Moscow
Benfica
Sevilla
About as lucky as United last season
And some people always say that complains about cup draws are just "excuses" and that the best team wins the cup. The draws matter though.
That's what I thought too, but what I've seen from Bayern fans online they absolutely love Pep and defend his work much more than I would have expected with the "early" CL exists.
You've said in other posts that you have no problem with outside investment, it's the breaking the rules that's the problem. I think that's a perfectly reasonable viewpoint. It does draw a somewhat artificial distinction between what Chelsea did, for example, and what City subsequently did but I can live with that.
However, to have a serious debate on UEFA FFP, you have to be able to acknowledge the role of the "mythical uefa elite." The role of the top clubs, via the ECA, in the initiation and design of UEFA FFP is well-documented and has been confirmed publicly many times by both Platini (as then Secretary General of UEFA) and Rummenigge (then Chairman of the ECA). It's not a conspiracy theory and has been referenced by several posters in here. Additional detail on the mid-monitoring period rule change on pre-UEFA FFP contracts, and its role in City failing UEFA FFP, has also been discussed in here. In the end, City failed UEFA FFP, in doing so breaking the rules, and were punished for doing so in 2014.
Acknowledging these issues adds context to the debate. I would rather City had not broken UEFA's FFP rules, but at the same time I question the origination and design of those rules. The sugar daddy model is not sustainable or healthy, but nor is the fundamental structure of the game that requires a mid-table team to have a sugar daddy to compete at the elite level in the first place. UEFA FFP ingrains that structure while restricting the sugar daddy model, and I don't think that's a good balance. You've criticised a City poster above for lacking nuance (on a different topic), while doing the same yourself when you try to debate UEFA FFP. You're either deliberately ignoring context, detail, and evidence or you're trolling. Either way, it doesn't do much for your credibility on this topic.
In fairness, we couldn’t have made either domestic cup final without first beating City and Tottenham in the respective semis.EFL Cup:
Burton (H)
Swansea (A)
Bristol (A)
FA Cup:
Derby (H)
Yeovil (A)
Huddersfield (A)
Brighton (H)
Spurs
Champions League:
Basel
CSKA Moscow
Benfica
Sevilla
About as lucky as United last season
As opposed to Burton and Brighton.
But them’s the breaks.
We've definitely had a great run of cup draws this season, can't deny that at all. Obviously you've still got to win the games, but it's easier to win the games if the draw is kinder!
I think some of the comments in here are a bit strange though. Weird to get bitter about cup draws when it's not something that is within City's control.
My post was just about how lucky you are. Nothing else. We were lucky last season. We were lucky also when we won it under Lvg.
It is just amazing to me how in one season in all 3 competitions you have that much luck. And of course that i am jeolous.
. I would rather play with Bristol, Schalke and Burton than Psg, Arsenal or Chelsea. No brainer thereYour reference to camels and Arabs suggests there’s more than a hint of casual racism about your post. Don’t think I don’t know what you’re up to because it seems rather obvious from here.
Otherwise, some of your points might be worth engaging with. Just one thing on the lack of gay and women’s rights though - as unpalatable as that is, to lay the blame for that at the door of one person who owns Manchester City FC is way off because if you actually engage your brain, you’ll see that Abu Dhabi - like many Muslim countries - aligns it’s national laws along that of Sharia Law and has done for centuries. Thinking that one person - who, funnily enough just happens to be the owner of a rival football club to yours - has the power to change centuries of Sharia Law overnight is quite frankly ridiculous and if he tried to he may as well sign his own death warrant. As it is, the punishments for gay people in Abu Dhabi and other UAE countries, while way too severe, are far more lenient than in other Muslim countries and Abu Dhabi does appear to be slowly moving towards a more modern stance on certain issues. But it also will take decades and decades and it will require key figures within that religion to allow a softening of some of the more draconian aspects of it for homosexuality to ever be legalised in those countries. Anyway, that’s a topic which belongs more in the General Forum so you might be advised to take it there and invite those of the Muslim faith for their views instead of using it to score points against opposition football fans.
Prior to this season City had gone through a terrible spell of luck in the cup competitions. This article mentions some of the draws: https://www.thesportsman.com/articles/manchester-city-s-history-of-extraordinary-cup-draws
I remember we had something like eleven consecutive cup draws away from home, most against PL opposition. And let’s not forget our early CL draws, groups with Bayern and Napoli (who were fourth seed!), Dortmund, Real Madrid + Ajax. First two times we progressed out the group we were rewarded with ties against Barcelona. Yeah, we’ve had some ridiculous luck this season, but it’s about time I’d say.
Fanboy?!
You can call me a fanboy or admirer but I’ve never seen more dominant teams than Pep’s especially his Barca. I do not know how, but he manages not even best players to look like world-class players. Even in times when only we and Arsenal “fought” for the league and the competition was much lower than the current, we were not so dominant and didn’t win the league with 100 points,although we were the richest and most spending club in England.
And what were City's draws last season if you want to go down that route...EFL Cup:
Burton (H)
Swansea (A)
Bristol (A)
FA Cup:
Derby (H)
Yeovil (A)
Huddersfield (A)
Brighton (H)
Spurs
Champions League:
Basel
CSKA Moscow
Benfica
Sevilla
About as lucky as United last season
I'm starting to believe they can win the quintuple this season...
Only thing I can see hurting them are injuries. Delph is awful and almost cost them in the FA cup like he did last season.
Only thing I can see hurting them are injuries. Delph is awful and almost cost them in the FA cup like he did last season.
Debryne
Fernandinho
Stones
All back after the international break.
Laporte back already.
There goes that injury crisis
Fernandinho
Stones
All back after the international break.
Laporte back already.
There goes that injury crisis
Spurs need to shut down their quadruple hopes...then I can get back to being fully behind them beating Liverpool to the league...
L89
Imagine that, he makes not even best players look world class? Unlike Fergie, right?
Not only that, unlike Pep who jumps in clubs who splash whatever cash he wants Fergie constantly rebulit squads to challenge whatever rival did put up a fight.
Are you having a laugh? If anything competition was way tougher, he fought not only Arsenal and they were tough and great rivals but saw of the rise of Chelsea and City. Who did City 'fight' last year exactly?Fanboy?!
You can call me a fanboy or admirer but I’ve never seen more dominant teams than Pep’s especially his Barca. I do not know how, but he manages not even best players to look like world-class players. Even in times when only we and Arsenal “fought” for the league and the competition was much lower than the current, we were not so dominant and didn’t win the league with 100 points,although we were the richest and most spending club in England.
Imagine that, he makes not even best players look world class? Unlike Fergie, right?
Not only that, unlike Pep who jumps in clubs who splash whatever cash he wants Fergie constantly rebulit squads to challenge whatever rival did put up a fight.
Yeah, because it's idiotic to have a standard where anything but winning a CL title is a failure.
shouldnt you be on blue moon telling them all what a tough guy you are? Your obsession with me is a little creepy. Try a few deep breaths. Poster here messages me to show me how much you talk about me elsewhere and I had to search your name. Truly didn't know who you were. Sorry I've affected you so deeplyJust enjoy the success, some of us care more about things than others, it's not a crime to want to get all giddy at any cost. Enjoy it, that's you.
As an aside and at the risk of engaging a stalker, el magico has a posting history suggesting a real preoccupation with nationality.
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This is not Bluemoon where you think you can get away with calling United forums glory hunter and using the old adage of "go support your local team". Mostly all of your posts is constantly sniping at United and their fans. Good riddance.
he literally said so
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.te...igh-standards-means-will-branded-failure/amp/
if youre the favorite success on the european level is really the target otherwise you didn't complete the job.
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Thanks buddy.
Too often are any comments detracting from city dismissed as bitterness. I've said many times, in a discussion about their football ill give all the credit that's fair. How it came to be should be rightfully queried. And anybody with a sporting conscience or traditional outlook on sport in general will at least be a little discerning before swallowing every claim made about them and every thin excuse to justify their emergence. I'm not just ranting about City as my posts show, I've some clear points. Some city fans can engage and disagree, others seem to get eaten away by any criticism.
Who was the poster? Namco in his umpteenth incarnation?
Just enjoy the success, some of us care more about things than others, it's not a crime to want to get all giddy at any cost. Enjoy it, that's you.
As an aside and at the risk of engaging a stalker, el magico has a posting history suggesting a real preoccupation with nationality.
Always talking about you? Hardly. Now namco has been banned (again), you’ve assumed the mantle of number one troll and I don’t think anything can ever top your obsession with all things City - this despite you claiming we’re a pointless club
You say you don’t know who I am yet you couldn’t wait to go skriking to the boss man last year when it came on top for you (as it often does). Not to mention another spat where we were both asked by a mod to cool it. Cue an apology to said mod from me, yet you couldn’t even bring yourself to do that and embarked on some long-winded inane rant about City fans being too sensitive (lack of self-awareness much?), then subsequently said something about seeking mod advice. This when a mod had already intervened and told you and I to pack it in so there was no need to carry it on. Oh, and who could ever forget you saying that you wanted all City fans banned from ever posting on this forum, regardless of whether they’d done anything wrong or not
Do yourself a favour mate - give your fanny a wipe and have a day off every once in a while. I guarantee you’ll feel better for it
Of course I know who you are while we are talking. I don't recognise your name or the poster you refer to. I also don't store up grudges and grievances and take them elsewhere or dredge them up months later. It's the Internet sir. Calm down a little. Respect a different opinion and move on, ignore me, or engage in meaningful discussion.Who was the poster? Namco in his umpteenth incarnation?
Always talking about you? Hardly. Now namco has been banned (again), you’ve assumed the mantle of number one troll and I don’t think anything can ever top your obsession with all things City - this despite you claiming we’re a pointless club
You say you don’t know who I am yet you couldn’t wait to go skriking to the boss man last year when it came on top for you (as it often does). Not to mention another spat where we were both asked by a mod to cool it. Cue an apology to said mod from me, yet you couldn’t even bring yourself to do that and embarked on some long-winded inane rant about City fans being too sensitive (lack of self-awareness much?), then subsequently said something about seeking mod advice. This when a mod had already intervened and told you and I to pack it in so there was no need to carry it on. Oh, and who could ever forget you saying that you wanted all City fans banned from ever posting on this forum, regardless of whether they’d done anything wrong or not
Do yourself a favour mate - give your fanny a wipe and have a day off every once in a while. I guarantee you’ll feel better for it
I truly didn't know there was somebody to put on ignore until those anti intellectual posts tagging me appeared.
There's been nothing unsavoury in my posts.
I said that to him in saturday. Where have you been these two days?
Yeah, apologies for that mate. The Bluemoon references made me laugh though - I've had way more run-ins with fellow City fans on there than I've ever had with United fans on here, and the language has been a lot more choice too!
13 games in 44 days from March 30 to May 12th. We need everyone on board and I take all the help we can get. No injuries, VAR, no VAR, referees, anything helpsDebryne
Fernandinho
Stones
All back after the international break.
Laporte back already.
There goes that injury crisis
. Now hopefully we don't get any players injured in this stupid international break. I take the brake though
Our April fixture schedule is absolutely insane! If we make it to the end of the month still in the FA Cup and CL, and still in the title race we'll be doing very well. I think Guardiola will try to rotate a little, because he'll have to, but think we'll be pretty close to full strength (apart from any injuries) every game because I don't see him sacrificing any competition.13 games in 44 days from March 30 to May 12th. We need everyone on board and I take all the help we can get. No injuries, VAR, no VAR, referees, anything helps
Now hopefully we don't get any players injured in this stupid international break. I take the brake though