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What is this about, nit picking, undoubtedly any of the top four teams in the Premier League would snap up Vidic in a second, without a moments hesitation. If we have nothing better to do then perhaps we should say nothing.

Its threads like these that make you ask the question, are these really Manchester United fans or simply glory hunters, those who only want to win.

We have a very good season, lets not forget that, many so-called pundits wrote us off. It has been stated often that the Premier League is one of the toughest leagues to win as any team on there day could upset the form book.
 

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linked with a move to Anzhi Makhachkala , the club who just signed eto'o, what loads of shit....
 

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Vidic doesn't seem money driven to me and I doubt he and wife wants a return to Russia. His agents are a pain in the ass though, when Vidic is linked with a move one of them is usually saying he is staying while the other says he might move. Agents eh?
 

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Sell Vidic and start making the same mistakes Wenger made with thinking that he can do it all with just promising youth and start selling of club captain? I hope not.
 

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Glazers: "We have to take the 50m SAF. He's 30 and on massive wages. You can take 20m of that and buy Subotic. Or piss Wenger off and steal Cahill away for 15m."

SAF: "Wenger."
 

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Never understood why some are so keen to sell players for good money.


Why would you even consider selling Vida for 50 M, when the money won't be going in your pocket, most probably won't be going in our already big transfer kitty, and even if it did - who would we buy who would improve our side? I mean, what do you do with the 50 M? Someone will probably answer 'pay some of our mortgage', but that is a piss in the ocean.

We have the best central defender in the world in Vidic, and he happens to be loyal and our captain as well. Would not sell him if we didn't have to.
 

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Will be interesting to see him partner Jones, usually you want the 'silk and steel' combination, but as steely as they are, both have plenty of silk as well.
 

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Does anyone think we would have looked so alarmed at set-pieces with Vidic at the back? Can't wait for him to get back there and get those headers outta there.
 

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Think we would of won if he played yesterday. Nothing against Jones or Rio cause they were good, but I don't think it was a coincidence that Crouch's first goal against us came when Vidic wasn't playing.
 

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Its fairly common sense that we'd be better with him in the side.

regarding the goal, jones did lose crouch so perhaps vida might have prevented that. still, it'd be harsh to blame him too much for 1 mistake.

it was a good game, had it not been for the ref, we'd have won. if you dont take that into account, i think stoke did deserve a point.
 

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Tell you what, for a supposed part-cyborg wrecking machine he's a fecking slow healer. Don't think he's ever picked up an injury that didn't keep him out at least a month.

As for yesterday's game, Rio's never been particularly dominant in the air and Jones is under six foot, so Stoke were the worst possible team to play without Vidic and Smalling.
 

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Its fairly common sense that we'd be better with him in the side.

regarding the goal, jones did lose crouch so perhaps vida might have prevented that. still, it'd be harsh to blame him too much for 1 mistake.

it was a good game, had it not been for the ref, we'd have won. if you dont take that into account, i think stoke did deserve a point.
How can you blame the ref when Stoke had more chances at goal than us? We did not create enough, were living in fear of their set pieces.
This was a point won imo and not two points dropped.
 

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How can you blame the ref when Stoke had more chances at goal than us? We did not create enough, were living in fear of their set pieces.
This was a point won imo and not two points dropped.
Well, its the ref's job to make fair decisions and our GKs job to make as many saves as he can. i see only 1 of them did theirs. You cannot say they had more chances and so they should have won, DDG is there for a reason, to save shots, and he did. the ref is there for a reason too. to make correct decisions. he didnt.

am not taking anything away from stoke. they were their usual selves, tough to beat at home and probably deserved a point for their play. but, a proper ref and we'd have had 3 points even though we didnt deserve to win. thats the point am trying to make here.
 

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How can you blame the ref when Stoke had more chances at goal than us? We did not create enough, were living in fear of their set pieces.
This was a point won imo and not two points dropped.
yeah

i'd point more to the fact that berbatov and owen were very poor, young didnt show up and the second half showing from fletcher was poor

that and the fact that stoke are quite formidable at home

shame Giggs didnt miss at the end - just a speed bump - hopefully we get a bit more luck with injuries
 

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Jones on Crouch was a fecking mismatch. Sorry, but that was a poor decision.
 

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Stoke never do us any damage in the air when Vidic is playing.

It's not surprising we conceded a goal from a ball coming in from a corner with Vidic not around.
 

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Conceding one goal in 90 minutes away to Stoke is not a disaster. If there needs to be any criticism of the performance it should be directed at the strikers. They were dire to be brutally honest. Anyway it's a very good point won.
 

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Stoke never do us any damage in the air when Vidic is playing.

It's not surprising we conceded a goal from a ball coming in from a corner with Vidic not around.
Even little Messi scored with a header with Vidic in the team. Crouch scoring with his head is no embarrassment.

Happens.
 

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Vidic, Smalling and Evans all injured. No other alternatives.
Huh? Ferdinand was on the pitch and was dominating Crouch in the air all game, bar one lapse of concentration. 5"11 Jones was beaten in the air constantly by 6"6 Crouch at corners and there's no shame in that, he should've been marking Woodgate, who was Rio's man.

I called it after the first corner, Jones was always going to be beaten in the air by him.
 

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Huh? Ferdinand was on the pitch and was dominating Crouch in the air all game, bar one lapse of concentration. 5"11 Jones was beaten in the air constantly by 6"6 Crouch at corners and there's no shame in that, he should've been marking Woodgate, who was Rio's man.

I called it after the first corner, Jones was always going to be beaten in the air by him.
Watch the goal again. Rio was even closer to Crouch than Jones. He still got beaten.
 

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Watch the goal again. Rio was even closer to Crouch than Jones. He still got beaten.
It was just an attempt to put him off. He was behind crouch anyways. was never going to get to the ball. crouch was jones's man. right or wrong, is a different matter.

we were always going to suffer from set plays without vidic though, not really surprised.
 

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Watch the goal again. Rio was even closer to Crouch than Jones. He still got beaten.
Pretty certain he was Jones' man. Rio was close to crouch after he left his marker to attack the ball. Perhaps he would've won the ball if he was marking Crouch to begin with.
 

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Watch the goal again. Rio was even closer to Crouch than Jones. He still got beaten.
Rio was marking the player behind, but then realised Crouch was completely free and tried his best to get there in time. He was too late, but it's certainly not his fault. He ended up having to leave his man to try to stop Crouch, who was Jones' responsibility.
 

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Conceding one goal in 90 minutes away to Stoke is not a disaster. If there needs to be any criticism of the performance it should be directed at the strikers. They were dire to be brutally honest. Anyway it's a very good point won.
Dire with what service? The midfield did next to nothing and Nani went home after he scored.
 

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Rio was marking the player behind, but then realised Crouch was completely free and tried his best to get there in time. He was too late, but it's certainly not his fault. He ended up having to leave his man to try to stop Crouch, who was Jones' responsibility.
This is all true. My point stands though. For whatever reason, Rio ended up the closest United player to the ball when Crouch scored. He still got out-jumped though.

It's all moot though. Crouch will always win some headers in the box over 90 minutes. No matter who's supposed to be marking him.
 
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