Red the Bear
Something less generic
- Joined
- Aug 26, 2021
- Messages
- 9,373
Sounds like a fever dream.
It could be but on the outside it looks crazy.Or it could be seen as an excellent piece of business in terms of seeing what others can’t see
They would have gotten relegated regardless.Burnley got relegated this season because Kompany refused to change his tactics in order to keep his tactics and style of play in the shop window for a bigger move. Elite tactics without elite players.
Responsible manager would have been pragmatic and played to his squad's strengths to win points. But Kompany is an arrogant self-publicist. Suspect he'll do well at Bayern though.
I like his personality. Very driven. Workaholic. He sounds authoritative and influential when you listen to him speak.I can’t judge his personality, though.
Probably but when you compared their season to Luton it's incredibly underwhelming. They spent a lot more money and did better in the championship, yet were above Luton maybe once or twice in the season. Luton lost a lot but they also showed a certain amount of grit that Burnley just never really showed. Burnley's football was okay at times but their campaign came across as naïve. You don't have to ditch the entire philosophy but in a season where Everton finished on 40pts in 15th, the levels weren't all that high. Burnley spent a lot of money last summer, I don't recall a newly promoted team spending so much.They would have gotten relegated regardless.
That sounds promising.I like his personality. Very driven. Workaholic. He sounds authoritative and influential when you listen to him speak.
The 40 points to stay up thing is a myth and 40 points is a false total for our 'level' as that includes deductions, otherwise 15th would be Wolves with 46 points. You only need about 35-37ish to stay up now. This year you would have needed 37 (without deductions). But yes, Burnley finished 4 wins off that pace with only 5 wins in total across the season which is terrible.Probably but when you compared their season to Luton it's incredibly underwhelming. They spent a lot more money and did better in the championship, yet were above Luton maybe once or twice in the season. Luton lost a lot but they also showed a certain amount of grit that Burnley just never really showed. Burnley's football was okay at times but their campaign came across as naïve. You don't have to ditch the entire philosophy but in a season where Everton finished on 40pts in 15th, the levels weren't all that high. Burnley spent a lot of money last summer, I don't recall a newly promoted team spending so much.
The necessary points total changes each year, 40 is a good benchmark and a nice round number. The bottom 3 were quite weak this season but next year it could be different.The 40 points to stay up thing is a myth and 40 points is a false total for our 'level' as that includes deductions, otherwise 15th would be Wolves with 46 points. You only need about 35-37ish to stay up now. This year you would have needed 37 (without deductions). But yes, Burnley finished 4 wins off that pace with only 5 wins in total across the season which is terrible.
You'll be fine.... He's a decent managerDon’t care about his stint with Burnley. The question is, wether his personality and tactics fit a club like ours. Tactically, what I’m reading sounds encouraging. I can’t judge his personality, though.
I don’t mind the signing. Wouldn’t be shocked, if it turned out well, wouldn’t be shocked if it didn’t. But considering the amount of top managers we went through lately, getting someone like him might make sense.
You're right but as you say they were miles off it and miles off even being remotely competitive to having a sniff of staying up. Relegation is relegation but there was nothing impressive about Burnley this season in my opinion.The 40 points to stay up thing is a myth and 40 points is a false total for our 'level' as that includes deductions, otherwise 15th would be Wolves with 46 points. You only need about 35-37ish to stay up now. This year you would have needed 37 (without deductions). But yes, Burnley finished 4 wins off that pace with only 5 wins in total across the season which is terrible.
Indeed but I think the competition of the rest of the league now means that it's no surprise that teams finish with 35 points and under and the average needed is only around 36 rather than the mythical 40.The necessary points total changes each year, 40 is a good benchmark and a nice round number. The bottom 3 were quite weak this season but next year it could be different.
I agree, they were complete rubbish. The only times I was impressed by them was with individual bits of quality rather than the team.You're right but as you say they were miles off it and miles off even being remotely competitive to having a sniff of staying up. Relegation is relegation but there was nothing impressive about Burnley this season in my opinion.
Forest 22/23 : €195mProbably but when you compared their season to Luton it's incredibly underwhelming. They spent a lot more money and did better in the championship, yet were above Luton maybe once or twice in the season. Luton lost a lot but they also showed a certain amount of grit that Burnley just never really showed. Burnley's football was okay at times but their campaign came across as naïve. You don't have to ditch the entire philosophy but in a season where Everton finished on 40pts in 15th, the levels weren't all that high. Burnley spent a lot of money last summer, I don't recall a newly promoted team spending so much.
If your players don't Hollywood FC him, and actually engage in his principles, I wouldn't be at all surprised if he succeeds with you.Don’t care about his stint with Burnley. The question is, wether his personality and tactics fit a club like ours. Tactically, what I’m reading sounds encouraging. I can’t judge his personality, though.
I don’t mind the signing. Wouldn’t be shocked, if it turned out well, wouldn’t be shocked if it didn’t. But considering the amount of top managers we went through lately, getting someone like him might make sense.
Their recent rounds of hiring and sacking managers doesnt really indicate much excellence on their end. They’ve known for a long time that they need a new manager, which would suggest their top of the list candidates arent availableOr it could be seen as an excellent piece of business in terms of seeing what others can’t see
Yeah I wouldn’t want to be the club director that has to break the news to him that Bayern are entering a rebuild.Imho, I think that Bayern neglected their team for last few years. Maybe he will be good transitional manager for them till they clean the house.
Kane really fecked him self if its true.
Poor DycheFrom relegation with Burnley to Bayern Munich manager. What the feck.
I'm sorry Dyche, it's not quite the same.
The only thing I can think of here is that he's a highly rated manager and they need someone for next season. Perhaps a short term contract (2-3? years) with the possibility of them being able to get out at the end of the season and targeting someone like Alonso or -insert other- or keeping Kompany if he does better than expected.Why is this still appearing on my phone and computer? This is a dream. I am dreaming, right? The Bayern Munich of Omar Hitzfeld, Jupp Heynckes and Udo Lattek is going out to hire a manager who's one success is winning the Championship?
This has to be them not giving up on Alonso and hoping he takes them on next season.
I think more we're seeing the shift towards head coaches who have zero say in anything other than coaching. Younger, cheaper and probably, given how different today's players are, more able to relate to modern pampered footballers, these are the guys who will form the next manager merry go round.Why is this still appearing on my phone and computer? This is a dream. I am dreaming, right? The Bayern Munich of Omar Hitzfeld, Jupp Heynckes and Udo Lattek is going out to hire a manager who's one success is winning the Championship?
This has to be them not giving up on Alonso and hoping he takes them on next season.
It would mean that Kompany can manage a top club in the context of its league to win it. Like he said:If Kompany wins the Bundesliga does that mean the Bundesliga is equivalent to the championships?
Yes or yes?
I think that's a fair assessment. The quality of the leagues is definitely a big difference, but the structure of the league is comparable.I think its a good move. The Bundesliga is more akin to the Championship. Yes better quality but there are a few top teams and a lot of sht ones.
Isn't having few top teams and a lot of dross normal for every league? Just a quick check: the bottom half in each of the "top 4" leagues looks underwhelming.I think that's a fair assessment. The quality of the leagues is definitely a big difference, but the structure of the league is comparable.
How could I forget, especially with their points deductionForest 22/23 : €195m
Burnley 23/24 : €111m
*Transfermarkt
YesIsn't having few top teams and a lot of dross normal for every league? Just a quick check: the bottom half in each of the "top 4" leagues looks underwhelming.
Because the members still love(d) him and voted him back into office.Isn’t Uli Hoeness a convict? Why did Bayern take him back?
Oh I get it. But Burnley fans could rightly be annoyed at his absolute commitment to his methods, then scooting off when they get relegated.no manager in the world would turn down Bayern fecking Munich for Burnley come on![]()