Kehrer would be no different to AWB or Dalot, yes slightly better but still not good enough to be a starter for a top 4 team.Surprise at no interest by Manchester in Kehrer from PSG who go West Ham. Very good attacking right back.
Dalot is not good and AWB so so limited. Recruitment very strange
United paid 50 million for a 10 million player.Yeah, £10m is absurd. Such a crazy loss of value.
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The reality is you are only worth what the market is willing to play , it has been known since the start of the window that Utd wanted to sell him yet no club other than Palace has shown any interest in taking him and then only in a cut price deal.There is no way he is sold for £10m - he might not fit the system we want but he can defend - in todays inflated market he would be worth at least £25m.
Loan out for the year is much more likely - personally would rather see him play against Liverpool than Dalot.
We should be asking about OlisehIf we sell him at a garages sale price, who would be Dalot's back-up ? Or we are getting a quality RB?
His contract ends in 2024, so 1 year on loan next summer he has only one year left before he can walk for free. That's exactly what happened to Lingard, right? Take the money and run.10m is an awful offer.
Even after last year he's worth double that
still a very effective defender at a club where the onus will be on him defending in a low-ish block
i'd loan him for a year and, at the right club, his value will increase drastically
10 million is a ridiculous offer, doesn't matter how people describe it it's woeful business by the club. There are unproven players who move from championship to premier League clubs for more.10m is an awful offer.
Even after last year he's worth double that
still a very effective defender at a club where the onus will be on him defending in a low-ish block
i'd loan him for a year and, at the right club, his value will increase drastically
Exactly my doubts. Two weeks till the deadline day, sell AWB without securing a proper player on the right and situation might get even more complicated both quality & depth wise.If we sell him at a garages sale price, who would be Dalot's back-up ? Or we are getting a quality RB?
804 right back scouted only to lose 40mil within 2 years?Shrewd business.
Wan-Bissaka's stock has fallen and he is likely on prohibitive wages but £10m is far from being a very good offer. Just look at the sums of money even newly promoted Premier League clubs are spending on players.Why it is an insult? if you look at how much Arsenal received for selling the unwanted players, £10m is a very good offer, and Man Utd probably may need to make up the wage difference till his existing contract expires. If I am Crystal Palace i will only take him on loan.
The thing is teams may be able to afford the higher offer, but they don't afford high earner and high fee in one go, especially on player with potential to break their wage structure.Wan-Bissaka's stock has fallen and he is likely on prohibitive wages but £10m is far from being a very good offer. Just look at the sums of money even newly promoted Premier League clubs are spending on players.
Wan-Bissaka isn't good enough for United but he certainly is good enough to be a Premier League footballer. If we can't get a respectable offer, we're better off sticking him out on loan and letting his stock build back up. He's English and 24 years old. Another decent season in the Premier League and his value would appreciate again.
And those players are on a fraction of the wage. AWB is making close to 5m a year (the third highest in the league for rightbacks). Unless he's willing to forgo those wages, they have to be covered by the buying club. The only way they will even think about it is if they can directly save that money from the transfer fee.10 million is a ridiculous offer, doesn't matter how people describe it it's woeful business by the club. There are unproven players who move from championship to premier League clubs for more.
I'm aware of that but £10m is still a pretty paltry offer. It's difficult to imagine that his value can depreciate any further than that. If that's the best offer we're getting, just send him on a straight loan or one with a nominal loan fee. There's nothing to lose there.The thing is teams may be able to afford the higher offer, but they don't afford high earner and high fee in one go, especially on player with potential to break their wage structure.
Loan would be the better option, but again his wage is too high that clubs would agree to do the turd polishing job for us without a low purchase option. So unless we agree to shoulder part of his wage and send on loan, even loan option is limited.
Also his contract would expire in summer 2024. So we're in tougher situation next summer if he fails on potential loan.
I think you didn't read my post well.I'm aware of that but £10m is still a pretty paltry offer. It's difficult to imagine that his value can depreciate any further than that. If that's the best offer we're getting, just send him on a straight loan or one with a nominal loan fee. There's nothing to lose there.
For CP804 right back scouted only to lose 40mil within 2 years?
I understand what you said and I'm saying if the offers don't improve next summer we take the hit then.I think you didn't read my post well.
His wage is high for the kind of clubs would take him on loan. Nobody want to pay a high wage for loanee and a loan fee without option for purchase. Why would they help us improve our player while they pay a high wage without a chance to make it permanent?
Next summer, it would be Lingard last season all over again. One year left in contract and nobody want to pay a fee and offering the wage he demand. They rather just wait when he become free agent in 2024.
The easier option would require us to shoulder part of his wage on loan, or accept low purchase option. Similar to Henderson loan to Forest where we're paying some of his wage.
While that is true retaining him for two more years will cost another 10m in wages while he offers very little in return. Ten Hag wants his backs to offer attacking width and depth first, solid defending second based on the premise that pushing back the opponent will lessen the pressure on the backs.I'm aware of that but £10m is still a pretty paltry offer. It's difficult to imagine that his value can depreciate any further than that. If that's the best offer we're getting, just send him on a straight loan or one with a nominal loan fee. There's nothing to lose there.
That's why I'm proposing we put him out on loan during that time with the club loaning him in covering his wages.While that is true retaining him for two more years will cost another 10m in wages while he offers very little in return. Ten Hag wants his backs to offer attacking width and depth first, solid defending second based on the premise that pushing back the opponent will lessen the pressure on the backs.
That didn't happen on Lingard when he did extremely well on loan in West Ham. He left for free in the end.Like I said before, Wan-Bissaka isn't good enough to make it here but he can still be a good Premier League player. Any club who takes him on loan wouldn't be 'developing' him for us because he's likely already an improvement on what they have in their first team. We aren't paying any of Henderson's wages at Forest, they're covering all of it.
The bid was there, were it not for Ole we would have gotten something for him.That didn't happen on Lingard when he did extremely well on loan in West Ham. He left for free in the end.
Lingard chose to stay and fight for his place. That's on him.That didn't happen on Lingard when he did extremely well on loan in West Ham. He left for free in the end.
It’s a fair point — I think the choice is either:His contract ends in 2024, so 1 year on loan next summer he has only one year left before he can walk for free. That's exactly what happened to Lingard, right? Take the money and run.
what make you think that Wan-Bissaka won't choose to stay and fight for his place? Anyway it seems like he will either leave or go on loan this window.Lingard chose to stay and fight for his place. That's on him.
