all these years? What utter crap.
Right. All he ever did was whine all summer about wanting to go to Madrid, make God his agent and call himself a slave. I wish all our players show respect like Ronaldo.
I disagree a player like Rooney you should persevere with, a bit like SAF has done with Valencia(without any result). We've all come to expect rooney's poor first touch and general poor play when he comes back from an injury. Why do we think this will be any different if he's is constantly being dropped and subbed?
What Rooney did isn't exactly right but the staggering difference in attitude towards Rooney and Ronaldo on here is mystifying.
They can't see those piercing blue eyes.
I agree with every word you say. But it's a generic issue, footballers are being pushed on by agents and entourages and God knows what these days. It's not even greed in the traditional sense, it's a whole culture gone mad.
I agree that Valencia has been given an extended time to get his form back but that's also been down to a lack of options out wide who are actually playing well there as well. Plus maybe Fergie thinks the extra defensive protection and width he gives us is enough to persevere with. He's not been immune to getting benched or subbed either way though, he too didn't play against Real.
It's because since Rooney's English, people expected him to always stay at the best team in England, so it took everyone by surprise that he didn't want to be a one club man (for the most part). Ronaldo was Portuguese, so with him it was accepted that he would one day leave. Makes a big difference in the eyes of most.
I was posing a hypothetical situation and question that you raised, saying if he'd have publically stated his intentions to leave over the years, would that have made it all ok? How can I have made anything up, I didn't even state anything as fact or even opinion
Completely agree. Rooney's received dog's abuse today for "spoiling Fergie's day". It wasn't Rooney who told us all, it was Fergie himself.
Agents are twats but we can't keep blaming them, they're employed by players for a reason.
Well Ronaldo did get a contract at the end of his summer of flirting in 2008, didn't he? And why would we expect Rooney to stay at United all his career? I think people are a bit spoilt by Giggs, Scholes and Neville and expect everyone to be the same. Rooney has given us 9 of his best years!
Yes. The biggest mistake Rooney has made was the statement he released after Ferguson made his first transfer request public and I think that probably came from his agent.
Because it was so early in the season and RVP got the late winner I think people forget how important his two goals against City were. Who knows how the season would've turned out had we lost that game.
No, his last contract was April 2007.
That contract was only to up the transfer fee as we all know now that Fergie convinced him to stay another year.
Not true at all - last time it was clearly Rooney's PR team putting threats to leave in the press to force a better contract.
Not saying they were better but Hughes, Kanschelskis & Ince left together one summer and we survived. Keano left and we survived. RvN was prolific and left but we still carried on winning trophies. I hope Rooney stays, that is a rejuvenated Rooney, but if he goes then so be it, thats football, we'll get on with it.
We'd have still won the title I reckon, but that is besides the point.
Sorry, but anyone who sacrifices his kids' food and clothing so he can go to football has no-one to blame for his situation but himself.
If they're employed by their players then how come they demand/get agents fee's from clubs & not the player?
Exactly.
From the BBC :
So Rooney is being a twat because he asked (without the media flirting) twice but Ronaldo asked more than once and that's forgivable? Okay
Do you really think we wont replace him with a big name striker if he does leave? I don't see much benefit for Welbeck or Kagawa, or those who think this will be helpful for strengthening our weak areas, we'll end up blowing whatever we receive on him on someone to replace him up front.
Did I say Ronaldo wasn't a twat?
Ticket prices don't rise because the striker gets paid more money. People who own clubs are smart businessmen. The Glazers, in particular, don't give a feck about the fans and will raise prices as high as they can without causing too much of an uproar. Club owners know what price the market will bear and they tailor their ticket prices in order to maximize revenue. Negotiations with players take other things into account but the two equations don't affect each other.
You said :
You're defending Ronaldo saying it's fine that players need a new challenge but Rooney's done the same and he's a twat for asking twice? Or maybe I misinterpreted what you're saying and you aren't defending Ronaldo but it looked like since you responded with your reply to my post comparing Roone and Ronaldo.
None of the players who were not in the squad were on the pitch for the speech.
