Wayne Rooney | 2012-14 Performances
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Last time we needed to keep Rooney.
I think it is fair to assume Berbatov was kept around whilst players like Hernandez and Welbeck got a bit more experience. After paying £30 mill for Berbatov we were never going to give up on him straight away.
We've had a good number of years of service from Rooney, but now its at the point where we either offer him a new deal, sell him now for good money, sell him next summer for less money or let him go for free the year after. I think there's only one option if the club sees it as many of us do.
I hope he goes abroad but with the new baby just arrived / arriving then I would assume that a move to a foreign country would be out.
All Pure speculation on my part, and I couldn't see him wanting to move away either.
All Pure speculation on my part, and I couldn't see him wanting to move away either.
Rooney hasn't had the best of seasons (all players go through that) but if you are comparing both of them at their bests then Rooney is much better. Falcao is the slightly better poacher but Rooney's all round game is on a different level imo.
Even their records from last season doesn't support this theory that Falcao is a substantially better scorer
Falcao scored 36 in 50 games where as Rooney scored 34 in 42 games so Rooney had a better goals to games ratio as recently as last season.
We're hardly in a position of strength by retaining Rooney if his deterioration continues, surely?
If we sell him after another season, his value plummets anyway.
I think he goes, United moves on...
I'd like to see a poll of what people would prefer:
£50m from a Domestic Rival
£35m from a European Rival
Refuse him an exit from the club and expect him to be professional.
£50m from a Domestic Rival
£35m from a European Rival
Refuse him an exit from the club and expect him to be professional.
£50m from a Domestic Rival
E)boue?
If we're sure to get Bale in, i'd even take £25m from a team outside the PL. If we arent going to get Bale or someone else who is top tier quality, i'd rather convince him to stay.
An extra £15m is not to be sniffed at. I would probably sell him to a domestic rival. It all hinges on what we do with the money though, doesnt it. You cant really consider this in isolation, money in the bank account is of no use to us, but £50m + an additional transfer kitty to make a signing or two, used wisely, and I could live with seeing Rooney line up for Chelsea - or City even.
Sorry, I meant why not in response to "rooney probably wouldn't want to go to a domestic rival"
Aslong as it's no less than £20 million, I don't care how much we get for him aslong as he doesn't go to a Premier League rival.
It's simply not worth it.
It's simply not worth it.
I dont think Rooney would have too much compunction about joining one of our rivals, he isnt a United fan, and even if he was since when has that made a difference to professional footballers? Better be booed by a few fans for one away game a season than being frazzled by the intense, foreign sun, in some country where nobody talks properly and you cant find a battered sausage for love nor money.
£50m
I can't make up my mind whether he's...
*The past-it Homer look-a-like who'll magically transform into Messi at Chelsea, or...
*The White Pelé who'll turn out to be a resounding fag ash-covered flop there.
Still, I'd rather sell him to a club outside the UK.
*The past-it Homer look-a-like who'll magically transform into Messi at Chelsea, or...
*The White Pelé who'll turn out to be a resounding fag ash-covered flop there.
Still, I'd rather sell him to a club outside the UK.
He left his boyhood team to go to United - surely that tells you all you need to know about his loyalty?
That's a daft statement. I'm no Rooney fan whatsoever, but he left for professional reasons. His behaviour towards the Everton fans is of course another matter.
I dont think it says much about Rooney personally, to be honest, so much as footballers generally. Alan Smith, Sol Campbell, there are plenty of players who have done far more unthinkable moves than what Rooney did. People just want to win things. The players who will put personal loyalty above ambition are the exception rather than the rule I expect.
£35m from a European rival.
Ditto Frank Lampard. You lot seem to fancy him as being Mr. Chelsea, don't you? Not every player is fortunate enough to be able to play for his boyhood club and get to the top of the game.
I'd take £50m from Chelsea all day long
Call me a hipster if you must but getting Lukaku and any kind of money from Chelsea would please me right now.
Chelsea are not far off becoming a great team and a serious title challenger.
They are missing that all important striker...selling them Rooney would be a huge mistake that the £50 million will not compensate for.
Completely different case. Lampard left under a cloud and now tangibly dislikes West Ham, Rooney is still a big Everton fan who decorated his kids room in their colours and still claims to be a supporter. He has never handed in a transfer request or agitated to leave like Rooney has.
I think it's fair to say that Lampard has become a Mr Chelsea.
For what it's worth as a Chelsea fan, I genuinely don't want Rooney. I think he's on the demise and his Scally diet of takeaways, smoking and brass are not going to serve him well into his 30's. He's already lost a yard of pace and seems to be carrying pounds. 50 million would be a ludicrous waste of money at a time when we just seem to be starting to be young players with a good head on their shoulders who have re-sale value.
Both left their boyhood clubs for pastures new.
It's not different at all, apart from the side of the fence you happen to be standing on. I've never heard him disparage West Ham, other than to acknowledge some fans giving him a hard time. Also, didn't Lampard agree to join Inter and then change his mind in 2009 ish?
fecking hell, I'd snap their hand off for 50 mil
We have RVP, Hernandez and Welbeck, plus 50 mil to get other good strikers if we wish.
They get Rooney, his wage bill, and whatever else comes with him. They would only go and buy Falcao or whomever anyhow
Why does everyone rate Falcao so highly? I appreciate live renditions of Rock Me Amadeus before games would be a morale booster, but it is hardly likely to decide the fate of the league title is it?
So has Colleen had the baby?
Hasn't Wayne Rooney been known to antagonise Everton fans...I agree with anyone who says he doesn't know loyalty but to suddenly flip the script and call him a true blue is a bit convenient. It's obvious he's not loyal to anyone and he could manufacture a move to wherever he wants providing we want to cash in rather than have him go for nothing in 2 years.
Right, I look at it like this:
Selling Rooney to a Premier League rival has no benefits to us, whatsoever.
Who says we will spend that £50 million wisely?
Do we want to be known as a club who sell some of our best players off to our league rivals? Arsenal have done just that and look at the mess they're in.
Rooney going to Chelsea will strengthen them no doubt, and make them one of the favorites for the league. How much money do we get if we win the league? Probably close to that £50 million anyway.
Also, last but not least, the fact that he is going to score goals against us is a real kick in the balls. You can bet he will probably go on to become top goalscorer there as well knowing our luck.
So yes, £50 million in the short term may seem like a great deal, but for me I would happily take £30 million from an overseas club.
Who says we will spend it at all? remember Ronaldo..
I thought the whole rationale behind this was Rooney is surplus to requirements? In which case RVP is hardly a good comparison. He didnt leave because he was dropped for big games or couldnt get in the team in his preferred position, did he?
It's only different because he plays for Chelsea, and you're a Chelsea fan, you whopper.
There's a bridge missing a troll somewhere.
Good player he was, what about him?
True, let's not forget who owns and runs our football club.
Oh comeon. We spent the dosh on the likes of Valencia, Young and Bebe. In fact we barely noticed the difference.
Chelsea will win the league next season anyway, we don't want Rooney helping them.
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