You're conveniently twisting what he said in a way that serves you.
Good post. It's only on the Caf that I really see people deriding Utd legends like Rooney, Keane or Giggs for whatever they did off the field. Any Utd fans you meet in person love these guys with a passion. Opinions reflected here do not really reflect the opinions of our wider fan base.
Thank you, couldn't have summed it better myself.
No one is saying that they're the same. A lot of people who agree that he's a legend have also said that he's left a bitter taste. It's the people who are saying he's not a legend that are the ones that are finding it hard to distinguish a difference. It's fine to dislike him but still recognise that his goal scoring record alone will define him as a club legend.
I think the word "Legend" is thrown around too easily and out of context. Yes, he was a great player for United and England but if he is a Legend, what are players like Giggs and Gerrard who spent their whole life at a single club? Rooney was at our club because of convenience, he was an exceptional player but he wouldn't have got the package we offered him anywhere else. In my opinion, if there was a better package elsewhere, he 100% would have gone. He doesn't have Man United running through his veins like Giggs does or Gerrard does with LFC. For that reason I don't think he is a Legend.
Yupp, but then again we can see people who think he's a legend trying to gloss over the contract situation. I dont understand why it's so hard to aknowledge it was a shitty thing to do (twice), but still admit that he's a club legend but understandibly not a fan favorite for all.
IF he had gone he wouldn't have broken the record and I wouldn't have him pegged as a legend. However he stayed and broke the long standing record. Therefore he is a club legend.
Exactly. I totally agree. I remember the same, as well. It's really sad to see how the boy wonder has ended up like this.
By all accounts he is a likeable guy. Well liked by players and coaching staff. I think his problem is he doesn't have the social media savvy and charisma as some other players.
The same Steven Gerrard that left to go to New York? That one?
If we all agreed on everything there would be no discussion. We'd just end up with replies with the words, I agree, or this...How the feck can people say that Wayne Rooney is not a Legend??
Utterly utterly un-fecking-believable.
This place is full of
I am with you on this one. Same sentiments exactly.
Seriously? What did I miss?
I agree with the general sentiment, but this is something that shouldn't really be up for discussion, and it's baffling that people are even questioning it.
In one hundred percent agreement.
Ok, so lets just hit the nail on the head here, if United couldn't offer Rooney the package they did, would he still be at the club? And if no, how can we put his status amoung players in Europe like Totti, Giggs etc, by calling him a "Legend".
His legacy would have been tarnished way way more if he left to go to Chelsea. He was still decent in the Moyes and early LVG years, think he still got around 15+ goals both those seasons.
We still laud Ronaldo who spent pretty much his entire time at the club telling us he was going to go to Real Madrid, but doing it an annoying "only god knows" manner. There's a great deal of hypocrisy that goes on with Rooney because a number of people simply don't like him as a person, but for some reason won't just admit to that.
Not sure that there is universal acceptance of that definition of a legend. I for one think it is relevant to also consider other factors than performance on the pitch. Likeability, x factor or whatever is one of the reasons why the likes of Ole, Patrice etc are so revered.
I know, right? It's funny sometimes.
Split opinion? What split opinion? 84% - 16% at last check.
Hilarious quotes.
I know what you mean. I've said it before and I'll say it again. Don't expect players and managers to be loyal when the fans themselves lack loyalty and behave in such a ...... negative manner.
For me, I choose to celebrate the good memories he has shared with us at the club and wish him well.
PS: That bit in bold is perfect.
That's ridiculous logic. Had Leeds not gone through all the financial trouble they went through and built stronger teams, we'd have likely never have signed Ferdinand. If Monaco were as good as they are now, we may never have signed Evra. If football in Northern Ireland was much better in the 60s, George Best may have stayed there.
Between them, Raiola and Mendes will demand keys to the club.
You cant be serious? You consider going to play in the U.S treachery? Most clubs in Europe would have taken him that year, he is even said he had lots of offers, but refused if it meant there was a chance he could end up facing Liverpool. His move to the US was strictly a retirement plan, I wouldn't consider it a career move. His career started and ended at Liverpool.
The main issue, I suppose is that some people are defining the words "club legend" to mean a player that they like. Which is wrong.
Yeah it's a bit ridiculous. I suppose it's because Ronaldo will go down as one of the GOAT. He also lacks that charisma of an absolute superstar.
Times have changed, and I think a lot of people are in for a huge shock over the next decade.
He signed for another club. By the very definition he wasn't a one club man. You're so hung up about comparisons to Totti and Giggs, who legitimately spent their entire careers at one club, yet give Gerrard (this Gerrard:
Hang on, are you genuinely saying that Dalglish isn't a Liverpool legend?
