We still fail at some of the absolute basics like not leaving 30 yards between our midfield and our defence.
Having bottom 6 players doesnt help. You wouldnt swap dalot and telles for cash and digne would you? Villa are 15thIt is still the case, as useless as some of these players are. Unfortunately I don't think it will change until we get a good pre season with a top quality coaching team.
We still fail at some of the absolute basics like not leaving 30 yards between our midfield and our defence.
The fact that this has been an issue since Mourinho left, regardless of the midfield and defence set up, leads me to say no.But do you honestly think none of the coaches have tried to fix that?
Ralf's situation is untenable really. He doesn't have the dressing room. Most players don't give a damn. And he leaves in a few weeks now. So do most of the players tbh. But yes overall, since being appointed he has had zero impact on our results and hasn't improved our fortunes whatsoever. Failure
Whilst Ralph hasn’t done great, don’t think anyone could do anything with this lot. We talk of character, attitude and application, the majority are poor in every aspect. Top to bottom clear out needed.Ralf's situation is untenable really. He doesn't have the dressing room. Most players don't give a damn. And he leaves in a few weeks now. So do most of the players tbh. But yes overall, since being appointed he has had zero impact on our results and hasn't improved our fortunes whatsoever. Failure.
Basically, what I'm trying to say is that we have crap players that have been coached by crap coaches.Having bottom 6 players doesnt help. You wouldnt swap dalot and telles for cash and digne would you? Villa are 15th
i agreeBasically, what I'm trying to say is that we have crap players that have been coached by crap coaches.
And we've made them all among the best paid in the world.Basically, what I'm trying to say is that we have crap players that have been coached by crap coaches.
i’ve always thought this. You win and lose games in midfield. If fred or mctominay are a starter next season i can already tell you we are in for more of the sameFred, a somewhat capable midfielder prone to brain farts.
Matic, a very good passer but slow as feck, his legs were gone 2 years ago let alone this season.
McTominay, he's a very, very average midfielder. I struggle to name one thing he's good at. Doesn't score goals anymore either.
Pogba, lazy but very good on the ball. Defensively shocking.
Those are our options.... these are the same options we've had for what, three seasons now? It's just woeful. Fred can do a job as a squad player and Pogba is the very definition of a luxury player. None should be starting for us and yet here we are. It's borderline insane.
Well considering all the money we've thrown at it, we might just be a crap club.Basically, what I'm trying to say is that we have crap players that have been coached by crap coaches.
I’m expecting Donny to be in midfield with an actual DM who can defend and pass the ball.i’ve always thought this. You win and lose games in midfield. If fred or mctominay are a starter next season i can already tell you we are in for more of the same
Fingers crossedI’m expecting Donny to be in midfield with an actual DM who can defend and pass the ball.
how do you rate telles and dalot out of interest? Quality?go back a few pages and nobody blaming the players just the coaching... now we have 'bottom 6 players' hahaha
telles has had a good career pre united. dalot is a joke i dont see anythinghow do you rate telles and dalot out of interest? Quality?
i think we think we have better playerstelles has had a good career pre united. dalot is a joke i dont see anything
but the problem is still the coaching, not sure why a thread called 'we are an awfully coached team' has turned into a player bashing thread. we have better players than nearly every team in the league and look the worse team most weeks
just think its funny that nobody thought that when ole was the coach and 2nd place was called a failurei think we think we have better players
The answer is somewhere in between. Some of our players are playing a level below where they should be and some are playing at their natural level. Others are mentally and physically checked out.go back a few pages and nobody blaming the players just the coaching... now we have 'bottom 6 players' hahaha
i was never really one who bashed ole. If we didnt sign CR7 which forced us to try and play possession based football and stuck to his counter attacking stuff we’d probably be above chelsea as theyve not had a great season. Albeit with the odd frustrating results and blanks against smaller sides. All his bashers were too busy saying ‘told you so’ to acknowledge it was the attempted change of style that did for him.just think its funny that nobody thought that when ole was the coach and 2nd place was called a failure
Yes but you’re not going to get a tune out of this squad. Its too unbalanced, packed with extremely average and over the hill players.Ralf's situation is untenable really. He doesn't have the dressing room. Most players don't give a damn. And he leaves in a few weeks now. So do most of the players tbh. But yes overall, since being appointed he has had zero impact on our results and hasn't improved our fortunes whatsoever. Failure.
We sent Garner, Pallestri, and Van de Beek on loan along with Laird, and Williams. We could have done with a couple of these over the season.Fred, a somewhat capable midfielder prone to brain farts.
Matic, a very good passer but slow as feck, his legs were gone 2 years ago let alone this season.
McTominay, he's a very, very average midfielder. I struggle to name one thing he's good at. Doesn't score goals anymore either.
Pogba, lazy but very good on the ball. Defensively shocking.
Those are our options.... these are the same options we've had for what, three seasons now? It's just woeful. Fred can do a job as a squad player and Pogba is the very definition of a luxury player. None should be starting for us and yet here we are. It's borderline insane.
It's been explained numerous times why we didn't make any signings in January.We sent Garner, Pallestri, and Van de Beek on loan along with Laird, and Williams. We could have done with a couple of these over the season.
Also I cannot understand why we didn't bring in Kamara in January, for 10million. This could have been the difference in getting top 4 place.
Yes, I know what was said but I don't agree, OK.It's been explained numerous times why we didn't make any signings in January.
Been saying it for ages, but it'll be a night and day difference. Obviously only 1-2 weeks so far so not yet, but over the season thatll be the biggest difference. You go from Ole, to Rangnicks with a bunch of MLS coaches as interim, to Ten Hag who developed Ajax into their brilliant play. Its a world of difference and it'll show more than any player signing.Media suggest the new coaching team (ten Hag, McLaren, Van der Gaag, Ramsey) have modernized United a lot and it's a world away from recent seasons
How much do we think the improved coaching will improve the team
Im hoping for a big improvement. Just the fact we now have a proper coach/manager will make a huge difference, and this is with out any major incomings so far.Media suggest the new coaching team (ten Hag, McLaren, Van der Gaag, Ramsey) have modernized United a lot and it's a world away from recent seasons
How much do we think the improved coaching will improve the team
I think it's a great start and will only get better. Too many times I watched United last season and we had no style, no plan. This year I expect us to at least look like we have a style of play, an idea of how to create and score.Media suggest the new coaching team (ten Hag, McLaren, Van der Gaag, Ramsey) have modernized United a lot and it's a world away from recent seasons
How much do we think the improved coaching will improve the team
Assuming he can get the players to buy in to it, we should notice a significant improvement. But it will take time. The main beneficiaries will surely be the younger players, who will hopefully now see United as a place where they can develop and hone their skills.Media suggest the new coaching team (ten Hag, McLaren, Van der Gaag, Ramsey) have modernized United a lot and it's a world away from recent seasons
How much do we think the improved coaching will improve the team
Logic would say some will improve some will suffer. I think Sancho will do well anyway.Media suggest the new coaching team (ten Hag, McLaren, Van der Gaag, Ramsey) have modernized United a lot and it's a world away from recent seasons
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There’s nothing.Not really sure what is "interesting" to watch here. It's a small clip but from the looks of it they need a lot of work on first touch and ball retention.
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Of course, I wouldn't argue otherwise.There’s nothing.
ETH is clearly a better coach than say Ole but it’s impossible to tell from short clips. A lot of this stuff is just branding for clicks, happens every time a new manager comes in. Just as useful to talk about the stars signs of United players and what it means for the season.
Seems like they only bought enough bibs for one group. That's what happens if you alienate Mike Phelan - the king of the bib.Logic would say some will improve some will suffer. I think Sancho will do well anyway.
Either way I reckon it'll be another tough season ahead, it'll take time regardless of new signings or not.
Not really sure what is "interesting" to watch here. It's a small clip but from the looks of it they need a lot of work on first touch and ball retention.
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