SAFMUTD
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We are shit against high preassure, one would think that after doing it for 3 years players would have improved at it but thats not the case.
Look at their CBs ffs.We lost because our best central defender was sitting in the stadium.
People crying about losing to Liverpool when we are miles above them in the table
We had Matic come on because our CB turned out injured..Look at their CBs ffs.
We lost because our best central defender was sitting in the stadium.
People crying about losing to Liverpool when we are miles above them in the table
Oh come on. This team isn't coached to beat a press. Now don't tell me that's down to players because Liverpool defenders are worse than ours and they literally had no problem in passing from back.We lost because our best central defender was sitting in the stadium.
People crying about losing to Liverpool when we are miles above them in the table
Sounds great. What Carlos Queiroz is up to these days?Maybe the middle ground here (and to avoid the usual Ole is great versus Ole is average shite) is what does the caf think about hiring a dedicated Head coach?
Ole himself says he doesn't run training, so how about finding someone who is happy to run training but work under Ole - essentially someone who doesn't want the stress and hassle of management, is probably a bit older but is tactically strong and can go in and run the coaching team because it doesn't take three years to coach an organised press. Just pay someone like Jardim a lovely salary to come in and work with Ole on a short term deal.
Wow...We lost because our best central defender was sitting in the stadium.
People crying about losing to Liverpool when we are miles above them in the table
Hahah ah just embrace the madness.I fecking hate that this shit thread has been revived.
For that you need good technical players who pass it quickly without first putting in half a dozen touched on the ball.We just don't know how to play from back or how to beat the press. Liverpool defense was there for taking. What did we do? We just exposed ourselves to them.
We are entering Ole's third year and we can't make 3 passes from back.
Remember we hammered Leipzig... And beat city about ten times.... And Liverpool ???? So how did we do that without being coached to beat the press. This thread is magicOh come on. This team isn't coached to beat a press. Now don't tell me that's down to players because Liverpool defenders are worse than ours and they literally had no problem in passing from back.
I wouldn't mind him back.Sounds great. What Carlos Queiroz is up to these days?
Tell that to the Liverpool central defenders who started today.For that you need good technical players who pass it quickly without first putting in half a dozen touched on the ball.
This is what I see week in, week out? The odd 20 minute cameo shouldn't be fooling anyone, theres little or no cohesion and that shows if and when we lose 1 or 2 big hitters.Injuries are part & parcel of the game but professional players playing like they have met for the first time is absolutely embarrassing
We never put them under continuous pressure throughout the game. Once we started gifting goals heads dropped and the scouse backline went away untested.Tell that to the Liverpool central defenders who started today.
Their CBs didnt do the mistakes our midfielders/defenders did, that's the difference. We handed the game to them, going into the second half, Fred does the occasional brainfart and basically destroys the whole plan we had for the second half. Pogba loses his marker at the end of first half and we go trailing... individual mistakes are unforgivable at this stage of the season and in a game of this magnitude.Look at their CBs ffs.
Ah god hahahahahahaThis is what I see week in, week out? The odd 20 minute cameo shouldn't be fooling anyone, theres little or no cohesion and that shows if and when we lose 1 or 2 big hitters.
Whether you want to stick that on Ole or his coaching staff is neither here nor there as the buck stops at the manager.
We are an awfully coached team. I've seen absolutely nothing to dispel this theory.
This is what I see week in, week out? The odd 20 minute cameo shouldn't be fooling anyone, theres little or no cohesion and that shows if and when we lose 1 or 2 big hitters.
Whether you want to stick that on Ole or his coaching staff is neither here nor there as the buck stops at the manager.
We are an awfully coached team. I've seen absolutely nothing to dispel this theory.
That's exactly what I said. We don't know how to press high or play from back.We never put them under continuous pressure throughout the game. Once we started gifting goals heads dropped and the scouse backline went away untested.
And that's before the defeat at the EL final.I fecking hate that this shit thread has been revived.
If the glazers cared they should sack ole... Should they wait til after the final or just do it now? We could really play slick football in the final if they got it done now.I think this second place finish is built on a very fragile base and in any other season we won't come back from behind to win so often . Obviously decisions in football have to be made on results but good management & owners should be able to look beyond just the results. Unfortunately Glazers don't really care enough to give a shit
So we didnt win against them in the FA cup? Did they forget to press then?Oh come on. This team isn't coached to beat a press. Now don't tell me that's down to players because Liverpool defenders are worse than ours and they literally had no problem in passing from back.
So you thought we were comfortable with the sort of press Liverpool produced? Do you think it was just bad luck, that so many of our players were having an off-day technique- and passing-wise today?Remember we hammered Leipzig... And beat city about ten times.... And Liverpool ???? So how did we do that without being coached to beat the press. This thread is magic
FA cup match, they didn't press us this much. It was almost like Klopp gen Gen press was back today. We just couldn't deal with it. We couldn't make simple passes, simple pass and move things just to beat their press. Not saying there wasn't individual mistakes but Liverpool was there for taking. We could have picked then apart.So we didnt win against them in the FA cup? Did they forget to press then?
The reason they beat us with the press anyway is still because Mctominay and Fred's weakness is the press - you would have seen a goals vs Roma and Aston villa with the press pushing our midfielders deeper and causing them to react badly. Same shit here in Liverpool with it being worse because we have absolutely no one controlling our defensive line.
Look at the 3rd goal Liverpool scored today- your telling me that Maguire wouldnt have stopped that?
Guy's nearly 70, let him retire in peace broSounds great. What Carlos Queiroz is up to these days?
Do you think it was just good luck that we keep 'beating the press without being coached to beat a press'So you thought we were comfortable with the sort of press Liverpool produced? Do you think it was just bad luck, that so many of our players were having an off-day technique- and passing-wise today?
And for the record, we beat City once this season. Once this year... So even if we were prepared to deal with press a year ago, doesn't mean we are still today, don't you think?
If the glazers cared they should sack ole... Should they wait til after the final or just do it now? We could really play slick football in the final if they got it done now.
City didnt play a high press game like Liverpool today. At OT it was very defensive performance from them. At Etihad, they pressed but it was more of a controlled pressing. Never had 2-3 guys chasing us like a pack of wolves.Do you think it was just good luck that we keep 'beating the press without being coached to beat a press'
Well, this argument doesn’t really win when Liverpool have van Dijk out for the season. He is literally the reason why we are above them in the table (at least by this margin), so let’s compare numbers next season when he and Maguire both play 35+ games. Not trying to be a buzz kill here, but this Liverpool-team will match us pretty well next season when he’s back.We lost because our best central defender was sitting in the stadium.
People crying about losing to Liverpool when we are miles above them in the table
I am sure Ole are painfully aware. We really need to address this issue.We are not well coached at defending set pieces that's for sure.
Absolutely, Ole isn't the coach to coach these players and show them how to do ot otherwise we wouldn't be I this predicament. Ole doesn't improve players like pep and some other managers can.Everyone talks about how a team’s philosophy is to play out from the back but unless you know what the next pass is and the one after that, you get what happened tonight.