Watching Lucas Vazquez and David Alaba tonight really puts into perspective how crap our backs are. Incredible that we have Shaw, Dalot, AWB, etc. playing the same positions.
What do we still need? Aka The never ending story
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He runs. That's enough currently
Conor Gallagher could be an interesting shout as I imagine he would want to leave for first team football.
No he's not.
I feel sick that our budget is supposedly only around £100-150m.
feck off.
It should be GROSS £250m minimum with capital injection from the Glazers.
We've saved £1m+/£60m per year purely from the free exits.
What an absolute disgrace.
feck off.
It should be GROSS £250m minimum with capital injection from the Glazers.
We've saved £1m+/£60m per year purely from the free exits.
What an absolute disgrace.
Me too, but I’m guessing his price will be prohibitive
It’s the same EVERY year not sure why you’re surprised.
When Chelsea Liverpool city makes mistakes on the market, they can change and recover soon (kepa, lukaku, mangala, karius) United not
If we pay a lot a player who doesn’t work, we are forced to keep and play him till the end of his contract
Imaging them still playing with that players…
If we pay a lot a player who doesn’t work, we are forced to keep and play him till the end of his contract
Imaging them still playing with that players…
Because we've sunk to even greater lows last season/this summer. This is the lowest we've been.
yeah they really have to go hopefully some large protests are incoming again. Even if it delays the matches, forfeits us the points….we are going no where with them at the helm. Surprised there hasn’t been more of a reaction yet tbh…
You’ve quoted one player from Liverpool who is a backup keeper. They have made plenty of mistakes with transfers as well as have Chelsea and City and at times it has taken them a while to sell players especially previously with City when they first got their money.
We do need to get better with player wages though.
In my opinion, Ten Hag made 3 big mistakes but he can still correct himself.
1. Ten Hag should have replaced De Gea with Henderson.
2. Ten Hag should have made someone else captain and not Maguire
3. Ten Hag should have benched Maguire.
1. Everybody can see De Gea isn't the same keeper as many years ago. We need stability, that starts with our goalkeeper. With Ten Hag as new manager, he could easily replace De Gea. Everyone would have respected it. Hopefully we can still get a goalkeeper otherwise it would be painful to watch the whole season with De Gea.
2 & 3. Everybody could see Maguire doesn't fit the playing style Ten Hag would like to play. Why remaining him captain and why not bench him? For me Bailly, Lindelof and Varane are all way better than Maguire.
I hope we will find a solution to get rid of Cristano Ronaldo. For me he's still a legend but his ego would crush the group and we can't have it at the moment. Also when we let Cristano Ronaldo go, we would have more transferbudget. For me this is priority at the moment. Thats why I would also sell Rashford. He won't be better, this is it. Sell him so we can increase the budget.
Not all would come but for me it would be crucial that we buy players who are comfortable at the ball. Like: Frenkie, Soler, Ziyech. And please, don't go for Gakpo. He wouldn't make the difference. I've seen him play against AS Monaco and he was shite. I like Maddison for years but I'm afraid we can't afford him.
1. Ten Hag should have replaced De Gea with Henderson.
2. Ten Hag should have made someone else captain and not Maguire
3. Ten Hag should have benched Maguire.
1. Everybody can see De Gea isn't the same keeper as many years ago. We need stability, that starts with our goalkeeper. With Ten Hag as new manager, he could easily replace De Gea. Everyone would have respected it. Hopefully we can still get a goalkeeper otherwise it would be painful to watch the whole season with De Gea.
2 & 3. Everybody could see Maguire doesn't fit the playing style Ten Hag would like to play. Why remaining him captain and why not bench him? For me Bailly, Lindelof and Varane are all way better than Maguire.
I hope we will find a solution to get rid of Cristano Ronaldo. For me he's still a legend but his ego would crush the group and we can't have it at the moment. Also when we let Cristano Ronaldo go, we would have more transferbudget. For me this is priority at the moment. Thats why I would also sell Rashford. He won't be better, this is it. Sell him so we can increase the budget.
Not all would come but for me it would be crucial that we buy players who are comfortable at the ball. Like: Frenkie, Soler, Ziyech. And please, don't go for Gakpo. He wouldn't make the difference. I've seen him play against AS Monaco and he was shite. I like Maddison for years but I'm afraid we can't afford him.
Could still see us exploring Ziyech deal on deadline day, he is in this country already after all
Just don't see him benching £80m player even though he should without a doubt
Yes because getting rid of Maguire is the solution to all of our problems
.Henderson has one good game and everyone is on the bandwagon. He made the decisions on how he saw it during pre season and training. If it doesn't work, of course he should change it but we are 2 games in. Who is this someone else who should be captain?Think Varane should get it, ok he's not that shouting type but still think he organises wellYes because getting rid of Maguire is the solution to all of our problems
He needs to be playing regularly. I think he should be starting. I can't see ETH removing the captaincy from Maguire mid season but if he doesnt start games then Varane could be one of the ones to take it if he is playing.
Yes know we were 4-0 down on Saturday when he came on but he certainly made us more assured
Getting rid of Maguire doesn't solve all the problems but its a start. Just like to start with Malacia instead of Shaw. Look at the 4-0, Malacia would never lose that duel that easily. Malacia is also fast. So without De Gea, Maguire and Shaw you would have solved 3 positions. McTominay is not good enough. In my opinion we should have kept Gardner and let him play. We don't know how that goes but I'm conviced it will be better than McTominay. With this, you would have solved a few positions without wasting money. So we could focus on a defensive midfielder, striker and a winger. I don't know who is a leader in the squad. Perhaps Varane.Yes because getting rid of Maguire is the solution to all of our problems
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Problem is that he isn't going to be sold this season as he has just been appointed captain however if his form continues to dwindle then I'm sure ETH will sell him next season. Likewise with DDG. ETH clearly saw LB as an issue so that's why he signed Malacia.
The inactivity is maddening
It's August 15th, they're 4 or 5 top class players short of just fighting for 4th... And it's another day of absolutely nothing happening.
It's August 15th, they're 4 or 5 top class players short of just fighting for 4th... And it's another day of absolutely nothing happening.
Still could see us getting De Jong, Rabiot, RB (if AWB goes on loan) and forward
We should forget Fdj.
Buy Rabiot and Nunes. Get Gakpo with the remaining funds we saved from not getting Fdj.
Sell one of Dalot or Awb. Get Dest.
Sell Rashford, get Anthony.
Sell Garner with buyback clause, sell Bailly and other deadwood. Get Raia or Sanchez at all cost for your new number 1 keeper.
Let Ronaldo go, get Icardi on loan or Vardy for cheap.
Buy Rabiot and Nunes. Get Gakpo with the remaining funds we saved from not getting Fdj.
Sell one of Dalot or Awb. Get Dest.
Sell Rashford, get Anthony.
Sell Garner with buyback clause, sell Bailly and other deadwood. Get Raia or Sanchez at all cost for your new number 1 keeper.
Let Ronaldo go, get Icardi on loan or Vardy for cheap.
How come?
Because wouldn’t be in for the long haul if he has flat out no interest in joining us
Joke of a list. Fellaini won the 3 trophies and multiple games with us and he is in the Red, whereas Maguire is in the Amber? What has Cavani done to be in that list? Even if you don't like Pogba and Martial, you could argue they were the same as Cavani (spells of excellent form followed by nothing/injuries for a prolonged period). Blind was crucial in our most secure defence we have had post Fergie too. Far too many biases in that list.
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If you want to see a glorious PL newcomer MF then catch Fulham and watch Palhinha…guy bossed Liverpool in the MF and looks like a straight steal. How we can’t get a guy like that is beyond me.
Im still think praying we get at least 2 MF…still hoping for a Rabiot-FDJ double. Throwing money at a problem 101 but just might fix our problems.
Im still think praying we get at least 2 MF…still hoping for a Rabiot-FDJ double. Throwing money at a problem 101 but just might fix our problems.
No way in a million years are we signing 7, see 4 at absolute max De Jong, Rabiot, RB & ST/RW (deadline day)
Yeah would be quality partnership, however still think getting both looks too good to be true
I actually think we could sign as many as 6 players before the transfer window closes. I believe FDJ will happen (1). It looks like Rabiot is close (2) and possibly Cunha or another striker like Gakpo too (3). Ten Hag's teams pretty consistently have a left footed right winger and, with Amad heavily linked away on loan, I can't believe we won't even have one of that type of player. Antony seems out of reach this year but I bet he and Timber will be big targets next season. A stopgap could well be Hakim Ziyech (4) who doesn't seem wanted at Chelsea but was superb at Ajax. Methinks we'll see movement on this once the de Jong deal happens as we probably don't want to put any money in Chelsea's pockets while we're competing for the same player.
An Athletic article last week claimed we're still very serious about signing a backup GK (5). I have no real clue who this would be... total guess might be Etienne Green who's played for the England U21s and is highly rated but is down in Ligue 2 at his namesake team so shouldn't cost lots. Flekken of Freiburg broke into the Dutch squad this year so he's a fairly easy target to link us with... just don't see his blunder from the other day. Trubin on loan is another shout.
Finally, it's obvious we need another RB (6). I'm guessing this is deemed low priority and is contingent on AWB leaving which I feel he will do very late in the window, to either Palace or Fulham most likely. Ten Hag has worked with Dest of Barcelona before and I can see them loaning him out to us, selling him for a cheapish fee or including him in the FDJ deal.
I don't really want any of the above, bar de Jong, but they're my best guesses. I assume that ETH then goes for Antony, Timber and a DDG replacement (Meslier?) the next Summer.
An Athletic article last week claimed we're still very serious about signing a backup GK (5). I have no real clue who this would be... total guess might be Etienne Green who's played for the England U21s and is highly rated but is down in Ligue 2 at his namesake team so shouldn't cost lots. Flekken of Freiburg broke into the Dutch squad this year so he's a fairly easy target to link us with... just don't see his blunder from the other day. Trubin on loan is another shout.
Finally, it's obvious we need another RB (6). I'm guessing this is deemed low priority and is contingent on AWB leaving which I feel he will do very late in the window, to either Palace or Fulham most likely. Ten Hag has worked with Dest of Barcelona before and I can see them loaning him out to us, selling him for a cheapish fee or including him in the FDJ deal.
I don't really want any of the above, bar de Jong, but they're my best guesses. I assume that ETH then goes for Antony, Timber and a DDG replacement (Meslier?) the next Summer.
Intrigued by Rabiot (provided we get De Jong). Gakpo & Cunha are very unknown quantities to me, unsure whether Ziyech could find his Ajax form again under Erik. I don't think we need to spend big on RB just someone who can attack, defend and put in some decent balls.
just the 12 then
Every player that leaves United and has a few good games is judged to have been a mistake to let go. Hernandez in Germany, Welbeck at Arsenal, Fletcher at West Brom. As soon as their good form fades for reasons that were obvious while they were at United, they're forgotten about by the clubs critics.Yes because getting rid of Maguire is the solution to all of our problems
If you like the squad we have now, let it be.
After watching Palaces first two games this year - Andersen looks the sort of CB we should have been after.
Shall we restart the game if we don't get the transfer fee we want?
We are done as a club. There's a lot of noise from United supporters about what we need etc, but the bottom line is that we are 100% done under the Glazers. They just can't afford the club to make the investment needed, and the longer we don't make the investment the further we slip and the less money we have. Vicious cycle.
This isn’t the issue. We could have built 3 title winning teams with the money we’ve spent in the last 10 years. The issue is they haven’t a fecking clue about football and employ people who haven’t a fecking clue about football to make footballing decisions. Hence all the money we have spent has gone down the toilet.
What do we still need. The owners out. That would do wonders.