What happened to Graham Linehan?

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I reckon he fell in love with a transgender woman and she broke his heart.
I think something along these lines, I believe he was actually defending trans Women during Gamergate with one in particular taking his fancy (I know the name but won't share it) , let's just say the reality didn't match and he got upset.

That's what I'm led to believe. Not sure how accurate it is.
 

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He's having the longest public meltdown in response to mild criticism in history.

After a career of receiving nothing but adulation, one day a few people told him they didn't like his depiction of a transwoman in an episode of the IT Crowd.

Faced with the options of ignoring them, apologising and saying his views have moved on, or doubling down that mocking trans people is still good, he went with the latter and bit by bit it consumed more and more of his life as he saw every bit of pushback online, in his professional circle and in his personal life as further evidence of the importance of his fight to stop transphobic voices being shunned.
Is that how the whole thing kicked off?

I was following him I twitter years ago when it all started but wasn't really paying attention. I always wondered how he got started on this stuff.

Its a bit pathetic really.

I'll never understand how people get consumed by issues like this or conspiracy theories.

Too much time on their hands, a dent to their ego or sometimes a bit of personal tragedy + the internet and boom you're living in crazy town.
 

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Is that how the whole thing kicked off?

I was following him I twitter years ago when it all started but wasn't really paying attention. I always wondered how he got started on this stuff.

Its a bit pathetic really.

I'll never understand how people get consumed by issues like this or conspiracy theories.

Too much time on their hands, a dent to their ego or sometimes a bit of personal tragedy + the internet and boom you're living in crazy town.
I believe it was more over gamergate although I don't know much about the saga. He followed and defended many trans gamers including one I think he quite liked but in reality wasn't who he was expecting.
 
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Unbelievable what retirement can do to someone, I remember watching him on the TV as a kid, give him his account back!

 

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I think something along these lines, I believe he was actually defending trans Women during Gamergate with one in particular taking his fancy (I know the name but won't share it) , let's just say the reality didn't match and he got upset.

That's what I'm led to believe. Not sure how accurate it is.
Do you have any evidence of this or are you just making stuff up?
 

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Unbelievable what retirement can do to someone, I remember watching him on the TV as a kid, give him his account back!

:lol:

Out of touch old man, he even started talking with an Irish accent and dyed his hair black
 

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Even leaving aside the actual rights or wrongs of his beliefs, he behaves like an absolute cnut on twitter. Nasty, cheap, reductive arguments and personal insults aplenty.

He's also obsessed beyond belief. I'm not even sure if he does comedy anymore.

There's little about the way he presents himself to suggest he isn't a generally unpleasant person.
I agree with this. He’s basically the product of 10 years relentless arguing online. I know better than most that you’ll end up looking like a dick when you can’t back down in an online spat. If that’s ALL you do, every single day, on an extremely emotive subject, you end up as Graham Linehan. An awful person.

I don’t think his crusade is entirely based on that one controversial episode though. He first started losing his mind over gamergate. And then ended up taking on trans activists when the IT Crowd episode was used as evidence against him. He kept doubling down from there and a monster was created.

I could never work out why he spent so much time arguing the toss about ethics in computer game journalism. He was on the side of the good guys on that one, though.
 

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What makes you think he fancied that person? Isn’t it possible that the tweet you quoted is telling the truth? I would have been similarly freaked out - 15 years ago - if I discovered someone was claiming to be trans while rocking a long beard. The trans movement has come a long way in the last decade. People were generally a LOT less well informed when he tweeted that.
I may off but given the cretin he turned into then I believe Newton's third law may be applied, only an emotion as big as the hatred response that eventually over-came him could have created the monster he became. Why else would he have cared so much? I think that was 2016'ish also.

That's just my take. Almost catfish' esque.

I could be off though, it's the only explanation that makes sense as to why he cared so much, maybe he felt embarrassed by his emotions? Hurt and betrayed, it's a common feeling for guys who have regret about liking trans Women.
 

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I may off but given the cretin he turned into then I believe Newton's third law may be applied, only an emotion as big as the hatred response that eventually over-came him could have created the monster he became. Why else would he have cared so much? I think that was 2016'ish also.

That's just my take. Almost catfish' esque.
Edited my post as I assumed gamergate was much longer ago than it really was. My bad.

I’m more inclined to believe he descended into madness gradually, rather than suddenly after one traumatic incident. Like I said, you can’t spend as much time as he does in a furious twitter war without losing your mind. Piece by tiny piece.

Plus, as you well know, the crew he was taking on can be pretty damn relentless when they get the taste of blood (a description that also applies to the crew on his side of the debate, to be fair)
 

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Edited my post as I assumed gamergate was much longer ago than it really was. My bad.

I’m more inclined to believe he descended into madness gradually, rather than suddenly after one traumatic incident. Like I said, you can’t spend as much time as he does in a furious twitter war without losing your mind. Piece by tiny piece.
True, he's actually an interesting case study into the psych of a phobic.
 

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I believe it was more over gamergate although I don't know much about the saga. He followed and defended many trans gamers including one I think he quite liked but in reality wasn't who he was expecting.
Well if that's the case, then he's absolutely pathetic.
 

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I think it's a tad lazy to label him as a bit crazy. While he clearly is at the extreme end, there is something of a support base for his deranged views, especially in the UK media. Older and wealthier Gen Xer's who's been radicalized both by online politics and need to defend out of dated "progressive" views.

In all honesty something similar has happened to this form over the last few years. There seems to always be now some thread about "political correctness", vague grumbling about cancel culture or the "online far cult left"(Still have no idea what this means) etc. I would say this place has become less liberal recently(Makes sense as posters get older).

I don't think Linehan is just one mad man online.
 

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In all honesty something similar has happened to this forum over the last few years. There seems to always be now some thread about "political correctness", vague grumbling about cancel culture or the "online far cult left"(Still have no idea what this means) etc. I would say this place has become less liberal recently(Makes sense as posters get older).
Right-wing types, even journalists, deliberately exaggerate incidents and that makes it appear as though the politically-correct are taking over the world. The language used is a dead giveaway, from headlines like 'Now they want to ban Christmas!' to descriptions of just about everything progressive as 'socialist/Marxist/communist'. Entire mainstream news stories can be published on the 'strength' of one outraged tweet from no-one of significant standing. These instigators need to outrage and motivate people with lies because, in reality, they have nothing; but they desperately need to maintain the status quo for reasons of power, influence and money. They are lackeys to the rich and powerful, exploiting those who fail to understand the modern world, life's inevitable changing nature, those brought up in an age when the media were deemed trustworthy, and also those who are wilfully ignorant.
 

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Pleased to hear it is permanent.

It's not his awful views that were the main problem with his use of twitter. It was that he used his account to direct people to abuse trans people and people who believe in trans rights on twitter. Of late, regularly including many other prominent comedians on twitter, which is probably where he overplayed his hand.
 

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I believe it was more over gamergate although I don't know much about the saga. He followed and defended many trans gamers including one I think he quite liked but in reality wasn't who he was expecting.
That's even worse but I suppose it wasn't any one factor.

There was an interview recently where he talked about how he's rowed back and decided gamergate wasn't what he thought it was and a couple of things he said I found really odd and show a strange attitude he has towards women.

Its like he has some kind of hero complex where women are involved.

"I thought it was about women being targeted my anger reflexes got up cos that's a thing I really can't bear and I just jumped into it"

“I thought I was defending women,” he remarked, “and … I was defending blokes."


Its here if anyone's interested (he talks about gamergate around the 27 min mark):

 

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Mumsnet seems like a weird place for a man to be complaining that he got suspended from Twitter for saying "men aren't women tho".
There are a lot of people that think like him on there. It's such a weird place; they refer to family members as Dear Daughter (DD) etc. It's a bit of a cult.
 

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I've noticed, over the years, how the whole debate is loaded by 'wits' & their so-called jokes about 'people self-identifying as unicorns' and so on.
Even if we leave aside the matter of what constitutes identity, why begrudge people the freedom to choose how they are identified when so many of us are routinely categorised (frequently in a derogatory or glib sense) & therefore dismissed as irrelevant?
 

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Terfs seem to be primarily middle aged white second wave feminists, which is probably the majority of mumsnet users too. Nice to see they told him to feck off too though.
 

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Yeah, just noticed that myself. Their overuse of acronyms does my head in - half of which don't even appear on their 'list of acronyms' so you don't have a clue what they're on about.
It’s probably how they keep you -us- out. It’s similar to the Incel forum (yes there is an incel forum that exists).

How long has this deranged spiral of Linehan’s been going on? The Rachel Riley comparison by @CassiusClaymore seems very apt.
 

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The Glinner nudes convo can't be real surely? He couldn't be active with that on him.

I'm sure it'd be dead easy to verify in the archives somewhere for someone with the requisite skills.
 

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Right-wing types, even journalists, deliberately exaggerate incidents and that makes it appear as though the politically-correct are taking over the world. The language used is a dead giveaway, from headlines like 'Now they want to ban Christmas!' to descriptions of just about everything progressive as 'socialist/Marxist/communist'. Entire mainstream news stories can be published on the 'strength' of one outraged tweet from no-one of significant standing. These instigators need to outrage and motivate people with lies because, in reality, they have nothing; but they desperately need to maintain the status quo for reasons of power, influence and money. They are lackeys to the rich and powerful, exploiting those who fail to understand the modern world, life's inevitable changing nature, those brought up in an age when the media were deemed trustworthy, and also those who are wilfully ignorant.
I read an article today regarding the RLB Peake malarky and Amnesty were described as a far left group.
 

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Apparently his wife left him because of his descent into all the hate and madness. Also, from Reddit;

Someone figured out that if he gets 6 hours of sleep each night, on average, he tweets once every 10 minutes, every single day.

:houllier:

Well he's going to have a lot of free time now. Unless he makes Mumsnet (or "Prosecco Stormfront" as I heard it referred to) his new permanent home I guess.
 

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I agree with this. He’s basically the product of 10 years relentless arguing online. I know better than most that you’ll end up looking like a dick when you can’t back down in an online spat. If that’s ALL you do, every single day, on an extremely emotive subject, you end up as Graham Linehan. An awful person.
I delivered a food delivery to his house just before lockdown and he came across as a needlessly unpleasant person in the notes he left. Never seen anything like it before or since. In fact, I'd screenshotted to share with my friends to laugh at the note before I realised the name on it.

As you say, just seems an unpleasant person.
 

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I delivered a food delivery to his house just before lockdown and he came across as a needlessly unpleasant person in the notes he left. Never seen anything like it before or since. In fact, I'd screenshotted to share with my friends to laugh at the note before I realised the name on it.

As you say, just seems an unpleasant person.
What did he say?