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A very big Roma win would do. Cheers.
I do understand. It is a rock and a hard place situation. I really do not like either team, Liverpool probably more, but City probably because of fear about what they could become. I do not want us to fade away for years.I have less hatred for City, I'm not fully sure why. I can appreciate what they're doing right now regardless of the money spent (it's the game now and has been for a while).
Despite all the plaudits, potential records and style of play, their treble (if they even do it) would not be as good as ours and they won't do it again next season. So, I can more than live with it.
Liverpool having any success makes my blood boil and the thought of them winning the Champions League at this point is something I view as unbearable. I've grown up as a United fan with the idea that Liverpool are and always will be the main enemy regardless of current position, recent history or form. They're actually pretty close to us right now in the grand scheme of things as well. This just feels like 'how it should be' to me and I can't agree with fans who put the Man City rivalry first. Everyone's entitled to their own opinion on the matter though, of course!
Can't put up with another 15 years of bragging rights like there's been since Istanbul.None of you bothered by the potential of a City UCL win and a treble?
I'm way more confident that any of them would take care of Liverpool though.Not in the slightest.
I'm also VERY confident that either Bayern, Real or Barcelona would take care of City.
So am I, but I’m still not prepared to take that chance. Dump them out ASAP.I'm way more confident that any of them would take care of Liverpool though.
Edited my post to say draw now that there is a poll, due to wanting more of a chance at the weekend.I do understand. It is a rock and a hard place situation. I really do not like either team, Liverpool probably more, but City probably because of fear about what they could become. I do not want us to fade away for years.
So they would have bought it. It still means they will win things that we aren't. Doubt the media and City fans care about that. I want us to win not them.City can buy their way into a lot of things but they can't buy their way into being a bigger rival that Liverpool.
I'll always hate the scousers more than City.
Besides, I can comfort myself over anything City win because it's hollow after they've basically played real life FM with free money cheat codes. Liverpool winning anything would be infinitely worse, but them winning another CL would be unbearable.
Also, there's no better response to a gloating City fan than "better you than Liverpool".
This really isn't a difficult decision.
That is the only hope I have, that City have not retained a title. If they don't it might affect Pep's mentality. If they do retain the title, then I will be worried.Edited my post to say draw now that there is a poll, due to wanting more of a chance at the weekend.
My argument for any team fading away is every team will have good and bad moments over a few years. Sure, City look like the team to beat and finished article but until they do it consistently, I hold out hope that a team (preferably us) can step in and win something or stop City.
Only ourselves and Chelsea have ever retained the title in the Premier League era, over the course of over 20 years. City have looked like the favourite team many a time already, but always faltered when it came to doing it all over again.
No evidence they can do it again next season yet, thus we can take it on the chin for now.
We aren't a part of this equation. What you've said here has absolutely nothing to do with the question posed in the OP.So they would have bought it. It still means they will win things that we aren't. Doubt the media and City fans care about that. I want us to win not them.
Instead of a draw, how about a 0-1 or 1-2 City win? That would still mean City will be jumpy during the second leg inspite of 1 or 2 away goals. We could very well get a result against them. I just want the winner of the City/Liverpool game to get Real in the semis.Draw today.
Then they both have all to play for and would maybe play weakened teams at the weekend. This might cause pool to drop points and maybe give us a better chance against city too and could turn out beneficial for us.
Pool aren’t going to win vs city away anyway.
That's ultimately my thinking. The fans - all 40,000 of them - are very real though. And they're bursting with a sickening kind of joy at the moment.Exactly! I'd rather not take my chances.. The Champions League is almost like a mythical beast - you can't bank on anything!
For sure they could, but City winning the CL wouldn't bother me 1% as much as Liverpool winning it would. City are just a plastic team, I don't care!
Yeah, that's the point when I start getting more worried / annoyed. While this is a point I'd find people struggling more to understand, I think I actually dislike most of the the other top six sides as much as or perhaps even slightly more than City... Maybe I'm living in the past too much, but given how recent and new this City machine is, I can just put up with it for the time being.That is the only hope I have, that City have not retained a title. If they don't it might affect Pep's mentality. If they do retain the title, then I will be worried.
Liverpool to win today, so City are much more focused on the return game then on the game against us. City to go through.
It does in a way as I hate one more than the other, but I hate both, do not want either to win. Probably do not want City to have the chance of winning it as I think they could. Liverpool will cock it up somehow.We aren't a part of this equation. What you've said here has absolutely nothing to do with the question posed in the OP.
We all hate both, obviously, but you said you want us to win stuff rather than them which isn't an option.It does in a way as I hate one more than the other, but I hate both, do not want either to win. Probably do not want City to have the chance of winning it as I think they could. Liverpool will cock it up somehow.
Depends where you come from.We all hate both, obviously, but you said you want us to win stuff rather than them which isn't an option.
When it comes to those two shithouses Liverpool will always be more hated.
I wonder if that's true for people of a certain age, though? I hate Liverpool having endured a longish period when they were succesful and we weren't. There's a whole new generation of fans for whom that describes our relationship with City, while Liverpool have been consistently in our shadow. You can see why they might hate City more than the scousers.We all hate both, obviously, but you said you want us to win stuff rather than them which isn't an option.
When it comes to those two shithouses Liverpool will always be more hated.
This is my thinking. Though Liverpool being within touching distance of a European final will be nauseating. They're insufferable at the best of times let alone when they start getting ideas about being one of the big boys.Think City are better equipped to win the tournament so probably Liverpool. Hope they’re both kicked out for being horrible bastards
Don't wish injury to players, not even City or Liverpool ones.3-3
Few red cards and 5-10 players injured putting them out for 3-4 weeks (so that they are back for the WC)
I'm from Manchester and have to put up with more City fans than Scousers. It's still Liverpool.Depends where you come from.
City bring in bed with some despicable owners and being the plastic club they are more than swings it for me.
I'm just about too young to really remember Liverpool's domination, thankfully, but they're still the bigger rival. There's also the Manchester/Liverpool thing beyond football.I wonder if that's true for people of a certain age, though? I hate Liverpool having endured a longish period when they were succesful and we weren't. There's a whole new generation of fans for whom that describes our relationship with City, while Liverpool have been consistently in our shadow. You can see why they might hate City more than the scousers.
Leeds will always be more hated!I'm from Manchester and have to put up with more City fans than Scousers. It's still Liverpool.
I'm just about too young to really remember Liverpool's domination, thankfully, but they're still the bigger rival. There's also the Manchester/Liverpool thing beyond football.
At Arsenal's and Chelsea's respective heights I didn't hate either of them as much as Liverpool, so City's moment in the sun doesn't elevate them beyond Liverpool.
Hell Leeds are above City in the most hated rankings imo.
Actually, yeah, I guess that will always swing it for local fans. OOT fans will probably be a lot more flexible in their hatred. That's why there's a big cohort of people on here who had Arsenal down as our most hated rivals for ages.I'm just about too young to really remember Liverpool's domination, thankfully, but they're still the bigger rival. There's also the Manchester/Liverpool thing beyond football.
At Arsenal's and Chelsea's respective heights I didn't hate either of them as much as Liverpool, so City's moment in the sun doesn't elevate them beyond Liverpool.
Hell Leeds are above City in the most hated rankings imo.
Big time! I was at that bloody FA Cup game whenever it was, like 5 years ago maybe a bit more when they won 1-0 at OT, result obviously hurt like hell but feck me what an atmosphere.Leeds will always be more hated!
God I miss the Leeds v Utd derby games
Yea absolutely, no question there.Actually, yeah, I guess that will always swing it for local fans. OOT fans will probably be a lot more flexible in their hatred.
I agree about Liverpool fans, but City fans on the radio are getting that way, although I like ones who are on here. I like the Liverpool fans on here as well. I suppose they have had to deal with us for years and years.This is my thinking. Though Liverpool being within touching distance of a European final will be nauseating. They're insufferable at the best of times let alone when they start getting ideas about being one of the big boys.
EDIT: I've changed my mind, get Liverpool out at the first available opportunity!
You can not argue that Liverpool and Utd have had similar histories and still remain the 2 greatest clubs in English football.I agree about Liverpool fans, but City fans on the radio are getting that way, although I like ones who are on here. I like the Liverpool fans on here as well. I suppose they have had to deal with us for years and years.