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£100m if we genuinely want him gone. Otherwise we'll be stuck again.
Why would anyone, if they had a working brain, "genuinely want him gone" and would feel "stuck" if he stayed here?£100m if we genuinely want him gone. Otherwise we'll be stuck again.
I don’t think he wants to play in a team of galacticos, I think it’s an absolute necessity!!! He just doesn’t have the ability to lead or drag a team up with him and he will never develop it. He knows this well enough and is desperate for a place to hide before his star wanes too far and everyone rumbles him. Fergie was right all along.I'm desperate to see the back of him. The only thing I'm more desperate about is that United recruit well to replace him. He clearly wants to play in a team of galacticos and is holding us back, he's either out injured or "injured" or just not making the kind of impact we need from our most expensive player. I reckon you could throw him into City or Liverpool's teams and he'd manage to look hot and cold. That is literally the last thing we need.
I think the club needs to be wary of part-ex deals though, as the last thing we need is players that aren't what we need and we end up struggling to get rid of.
If we genuinely want him gone, based on recent reports. The guys agent just ripped the club to shreds, including our CEO and manager. Why would anyone with half a brain want to keep that sort of shit show around here? You'll see, as soon as a reasonable offer comes in he'll be sold. I don't get why anybody wants him to stay after the disrespect they've shown the club.Why would anyone, if they had a working brain, "genuinely want him gone" and would feel "stuck" if he stayed here?
What was wrong with his comments exactly? Raiola never criticised Ole. That's a lie. He criticised the owners and Woodward. They're destroying the club before our very eyes. Woodward/Glazers are practically stealing from the fans each year for what we get in return. He said right now we would ruin even the best stars. It's the pure truth under Woodward/Glazers. We are not a serious football club. We're a commercial club who has no interest in competing at the very top. They really couldn't care less. Someone had to be clear in public about them and it sure as hell wasn't going to be the spineless class of 92/ex Utd legends so i'm over the moon he done it. Aren't you?If we genuinely want him gone, based on recent reports. The guys agent just ripped the club to shreds, including our CEO and manager. Why would anyone with half a brain want to keep that sort of shit show around here? You'll see, as soon as a reasonable offer comes in he'll be sold. I don't get why anybody wants him to stay after the disrespect they've shown the club.
I agree, he did it it Juve and does it for France, where other world class players pick up the slack when he disappears for stretches in games. Not a criticism of him, many top players float in and out of games, but they have the players around them to accomodate them, unfortunately we don't and haven't in his time here. My only concern with him at Real is those fans are ruthless, few bad games from him and they will turn. For all the bitching on here, he is still widely supported by match going fans, I know we had that incident on last game last season where one fan had a pop at him, but at Real it won't be one fan giving you grief. Any public nonsense from his agent would also cause issues with Real fans. He's not one of their own, so they will turn on him much quickerI don’t think he wants to play in a team of galacticos, I think it’s an absolute necessity!!! He just doesn’t have the ability to lead or drag a team up with him and he will never develop it. He knows this well enough and is desperate for a place to hide before his star wanes too far and everyone rumbles him. Fergie was right all along.
Oh yes. 30 year old 4x Champions League, World Cup winner Kroos is really itching to play EL and compete for nothing in a physical league isn't he? No chance he would come here if he's not lost the desire to win things. He would treat us like Schweinsteiger did.I’d take the fee we paid for him + Kroos or 60 million + Odegaard.
Usually said attitude comes from selling the player an interesting project. Klopp is a good example since you brought him up.These days more that ever, top clubs are looking for professionalism and attitude. Just look at Klopp - he's turning any old player into top class just by making sure they have the right mindset.
Seems a bit OTT in response to my post, I never said any of them would want to join or would be offered.Oh yes. 30 year old 4x Champions League, World Cup winner Kroos is really itching to play EL and compete for nothing in a physical league isn't he? No chance he would come here if he's not lost the desire to win things. He would treat us like Schweinsteiger did.
Spot on. I can see Leicester asking 100 m for Maddison120million is an acceptable valuation in my book. Problem is we will get bumped on the replacement
Exactly, any player we sign from Real, Barca, Bayern, Juve will all treat us as second class. We need players who will be coming here to prove something and not treat it as a retirement home.He would treat us like Schweinsteiger did
if we got that I'd be ecstatic, I think we will be lucky to get 100 mill, and i think it will be a Real cast off with cash to bump it up to that approx value. Of all the players they are looking to use as a makeweight in this deal, it's really only Isco I'd be interested in, due to age, talent and what I'd perceive him to have a willingness to prove himself. Kroos and Bale are obviously top drawer, but it's just age, injuries and desire from those that puts me off, as does Bale's wages120million is an acceptable valuation in my book. Problem is we will get bumped on the replacement
Regarding Pogba he also said that he wants to stay and win with Man Utd, that he respects the club etc. Me thinks Pogba made a u turn and Ole has his ear more then Raiola does now and this pissed him of because he now longer is sure of another big pay check.If we genuinely want him gone, based on recent reports. The guys agent just ripped the club to shreds, including our CEO and manager. Why would anyone with half a brain want to keep that sort of shit show around here? You'll see, as soon as a reasonable offer comes in he'll be sold. I don't get why anybody wants him to stay after the disrespect they've shown the club.
Isco has provided less assists than Lingard in the best team in the league.if we got that I'd be ecstatic, I think we will be lucky to get 100 mill, and i think it will be a Real cast off with cash to bump it up to that approx value. Of all the players they are looking to use as a makeweight in this deal, it's really only Isco I'd be interested in, due to age, talent and what I'd perceive him to have a willingness to prove himself. Kroos and Bale are obviously top drawer, but it's just age, injuries and desire from those that puts me off, as does Bale's wages
You are definitely right, but it is not only about United situation. Swap deals are rare for a reason. Just +100 million deal which would take Pogba in one direction is complicated, throw another player in it and you have various parties (players, agents and clubs) from each side all with a different valuation. Not just that, usually 1 player from a top club is a rejected party here and doesn't wanna except the deal for multiple reasons while his agent will alert pretty much everyone about his potential availability. And club absolutely can't force him to go where they want.You are both missing the point. It’s like the Lukaku Dybala swap, both clubs agreed, Lukaku agreed, but Dybala rejected the chance to join United. I don’t believe ANY of the names listed here as potential swap deals would be at all interested in joining United. So while the clubs and Pogba may agree, the players coming to us won’t!
Sad times, but reality.
Maddison will certainly be in the 85-100 slot and I think Pogba is a more complete player and has the capabilities of running the midfield if surrounded by a touch of class. That puts Pogba at the 100 plus mark for me but i think he now needs to show his quality on the pitch for the balance of the season.Spot on. I can see Leicester asking 100 m for Maddison
I agree with this. In reality no club is going to pay top money for him, he's not worth it. 100m is about expected.Pogba has really devalued himself with his attitude.
These days more that ever, top clubs are looking for professionalism and attitude. Just look at Klopp - he's turning any old player into top class just by making sure they have the right mindset.
I fear that Pogba will leave for no more than what we paid for him. His attitude is a huge bargaining chip for potential suitors.
Mainly because he doesn't want to be here.Why would anyone, if they had a working brain, "genuinely want him gone" and would feel "stuck" if he stayed here?
What are the goals and assist stats for both over the last few seasons I honestlySpot on. I can see Leicester asking 100 m for Maddison
What’s he done to deserve an increase in wages though? I’d rather lose the circus, take the cash and buy a couple of midfielders who are posting up good performances consistently for their clubs.Considering he doesn’t have many suitors capable of raising the fee and matching our wages, I think he will sign another big contract with a gentleman’s agreement that he can move for the right price in a few seasons time. By then our team will hopefully have matured and he won’t want to.
This, plus Adds on basing on his performances.No less than what Liverpool got for Coutinho. So £140m+.
100 million I think. Plus add ons.How much did Chelsea get for Hazard?