What would a Northern team do if they wanted to rebuild? Would the FA find them a suitable venue?
Seems very unfair.
Seems very unfair.
Who decided Spurs could use Wembley?
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How can people honestly say that spurs have no advantage when they have played on the same pitch every other week all season. The same familiar surroundings. Spurs should have been made to play this game at a neutral stadium. Crowd split or not they have an advantage. But in reality it is no different than the old format had we drawn them away. Wembley semis have already ruined the prestige of a Wembley day out in the FA cup. Sadly I feel we are the underdogs in this tie.
I really don't think it matters us playing Spurs at Wembley. It's not really their home ground anyway, its like a hotel until their new home is ready.
I hope the players and manager don't have the same mentality as some of the posters in here. If we're better than them we'll beat them its as simple as that.
I hope the players and manager don't have the same mentality as some of the posters in here. If we're better than them we'll beat them its as simple as that.
Should have shifted the semi with any foresight. But it is what it is now. Not the end of the world.
They never will , too much money is involved.
I have been to a few semi Finals , couple I remember 2-2 v Liverpool at Everton and beating Arsenal at Villa Park.
No one mentioned excuses. Please don't derail the thread.
Not really they will probably beat us because on their day they are better than us whether we are second or not.
Wembley was mean't to make this season difficult - the entire narrative at the start of the season was that we would struggle yet now it's in our favour? Yes we may know the ground well but on the day of a cup match it's still a neutral venue as it will be a 50/50 split in fans in attendance.
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Okay, it's wrong to say they don't have any advantage but I don't think all of that would make much of a difference. The fans are by far the biggest factor.
Anyway, I don't have any problem with people complaining about it. I just personally don't care.
That was my first thought too, Spurs away in the Cup semi. I agree with a previous poster it should be at villa park or somewhere. Make getting to Wembley special again.
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I understand they will be used to the playing surface, but the dimensions will be fairly similar to OT, both are big pitches, and talking about such fine margins as grass length and surface hardness doesn't seem like that much of an advantage. I think it's hard to say if the occasion will have less of an effect on them, as the division of support will be split. It's up to our fans to be louder and take hold of the momentum. Spurs don't have an advantage there. Our squad have played 2 finals there in 2 years, this will be our 3rd in a row, we should be well suited to the occasion.
Whilst it may give them a very slight advantage in this particular competition, Wembley overall has given Spurs more disadvantages, as they had to play their European games there last season despite White Hart Lane still being their ground, and it took them a while this season to really get used to it being their home ground. Of the top 6, they have a worse home record than everyone except Chelsea. They're not at all invincible at Wembley.
Bayern playing the CL final at the Allianz was a much bigger advantage, as it's their proper home ground and they have played there for years, and they still lost. I believe Roma lost a final in their own ground too.
Also, won't Chelsea be using Wembley when they redevelop Stamford Bridge?
An advantage is an advantage no matter how little and if that tweet above is correct, that is another little thing added to the lists of litte advantages that go in Spurs' favour. We'll still twat em' though
I think it's more a question of is it fair? Not just for the cup game (although that's what prompted the thread) but in general. Would a Northern team be given a new venue when rebuilding a stadium? Don't think the FA would care much.
Well that is a bigger question I guess. I don't know what the answer is.
I think the answer is no they wouldn't.
Seems most unfair in the grander scheme of things and clear bias towards the South.
It was difficult but considering the semi final and final would be in the last quarter of the season you’ve had plenty of time to bed in, which you have done.
Probably yes I agree - tbf though there is a general bias to the South (London really) in the UK and that is unlikely to change. You would think the UK ended just north of London if you watched the media.
Whilst I agree it gives an unfair advantage, we all know Mourinho has the perfect excuse lined up if we lose this now.
London media would be whingeing like hell if this happened to one of their clubs & rattling on about it devaluing the competition too,
Be interesting to see how it plays out in this instance - it's obviously completely stupid that it's been allowed to happen.
Be interesting to see how it plays out in this instance - it's obviously completely stupid that it's been allowed to happen.
Should be moved to the Emirates in the interest of neutrality. No doubt about that at all.
How did the whole Wembley thing happen?
I personally think there were plenty of clubs within the London area you could have shared with so to take the national stadium is pretty appalling from the FA. It's not like there were a shortage of potential stadia to use. Quite the opposite in London infact!
Good opportunity for a quick snark at Mourinho by (so-called) Utd fans though, innit? -
No idea but I guess it probably came down to cash at the end of the day, as most things do.
Roma lost Champions League Final at home.
We can do this come on!
We can do this come on!
It certainly wasn't a transparent process by the looks of it as no one seems to know how it come about.
True - at least it will be over next season. Chelsea could be at Wembley for 3-4 years if what I read is true though!
Half of people in London think London is a country
We are Manchester United, let’s stop complaining about spurs having a small advantage.
50% of the fans at the Semi will be supporting Utd. If we don’t go through it’s because we weren’t good enough, not because Spurs play there. Get a grip.
50% of the fans at the Semi will be supporting Utd. If we don’t go through it’s because we weren’t good enough, not because Spurs play there. Get a grip.
They're separate & different contractual agreements.
Spurs hire Wembley for their home games - FA hire Wembley for the cup semis.
Would be my guess.
Yeah there is a bubble around that place that makes people forget the rest of the UK exists. If you think it's bad in the north of England you should come live in Northern Ireland! We are truly invisible!Half of people in London think London is a country
Teams had the opportunity to challenge the decision before the season, but no one did. Probably because it’s only for a season and Spurs had to play their season at Wembley instead of White Hart Lane. They had a crazy good home record at WHL and lost points at Wembley, so you win some and you lose some. Honestly i’m not that fussed about it. It’s not like they have played at Wembley for many years, it’s only like 20 games this season.
I also don’t think it’s fair for the smaller teams if they had drawn Spurs. A trip to Wembley is awesome and you can’t really decide on a stadium a month before a game.
Also i don’t agree with people who only wants the final to be at Wembley. It’s easy to say as a fan of a big team, but for small teams fans a trip to Wembley is more likely with the semifinals being played there. And everyone paid for the stadium so it’s only fair more fans gets to have the opportunity to go there.
I also don’t think it’s fair for the smaller teams if they had drawn Spurs. A trip to Wembley is awesome and you can’t really decide on a stadium a month before a game.
Also i don’t agree with people who only wants the final to be at Wembley. It’s easy to say as a fan of a big team, but for small teams fans a trip to Wembley is more likely with the semifinals being played there. And everyone paid for the stadium so it’s only fair more fans gets to have the opportunity to go there.
A Northern team wouldn't want to use Wembley for obvious reasons though. And yeah, the FA wouldn't build them a new stadium but then they didn't do that for Spurs either. It's not a big deal in my opinion.
@montpelier, here it is.
I think we should withdraw in protest.
That'd show 'em not to mess with us.
That'd show 'em not to mess with us.
So the FA helped Spurs out. How would they help a Northern club under similar circumstances?
In London there are plenty of groundshare opportunities. The FA should have told Spurs to feck off.
Oh stop crying, I was having a laugh
Get a grip, it's got nothing to do with a small advantage. If you played it at OT and gave 50% of the ground to Spurs, it wouldn't be neutral and the entire point of the semi is to be played at a neutral arena.
It's a bit daft and should've been ironed out before the season. Add to that I fecking hate the semis being at Wembley to start with.
Don't think a lot of people heard of Northern Ireland at all over here
On topic, it's a joke really, FA are greedy as feck. There are like 5 good enough stadiums in London only to host FA cup or Spurs matches. It's a clear advantage to Spurs which shouldn't happen.