Who replaces Ten Hag?

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I would love Tuchel here. Perfect head coach who can coach the team without worrying about infrastructures and signings. Just sign him the players and he’ll fit them into a team. I’m not convinced on Emery, his Arsenal side was dull and uninspiring when he was there
 

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Makes sense I guess. Where else is he gonna go? He has to rebuild his own stock and I think he could make an instant impact with his philosophy and gegenpressing.
 

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Tuchel is undoubtedly a very good manager. He's not in the top tier, but let's be real, nobody is competing with Pep in the league while Tuchel has repeatedly shown he's excellent in the cups and can make a good side for the league too. No doubt we'd turn into a steady CL team which is a good start.

The only two options who would get the juices flowing a bit are him and De Zerbi, and Tuchel is far safer and known while De Zerbi is an unknown quality for a top club. Tuchel is the "big club making logical decisions" move. De Zerbi is the "club trying to be too smart and hit the jackpot" move.
 

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Tuchel, Potter, Southgate .. not one of them is "best in class", not one of them would have the slightest chance to be hired at current top 3-5 clubs in top european leagues
It's funny you say this about Tuchel when he won the CL with Chelsea, was successful with Dortmund, did an excellent job with PSG, and he got hired by Bayern who is.... One of the top 3-5 clubs in Europe. He's literally one of those who always gets a top job.
 

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It's funny you say this about Tuchel when he won the CL with Chelsea, was successful with Dortmund, did an excellent job with PSG, and he got hired by Bayern who is.... One of the top 3-5 clubs in Europe. He's literally one of those who always gets a top job.
He was.. his stock has fallen with every club he's gone to, now being at an all time low after Bayern stint.
 

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Tuchel is good but happens to be on the lunatic side of things. He should only be treated as a short term option, if it somehow lasts good but it would be a miracle.
 

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what are these things? It's all pretty much for everyone to see
What is there for all to see? That they made the CL semi final so far? Yeah they didn't win the league, Bayer Leverkusen is having an all timer of a season where they might set an all time points record. Shit happens, doesn't make him a bad manager.

He is a prickly character, but he's without a doubt a very good manager too. He'd likely get us into a steady top 4 team and fighting seriously for the cups and playing like a top team in the big games too. Gotta start somewhere.
 

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You would only appointment Tuchel on a shorter term contract as a transitional manager. The club would immediately want to set to work on a succession plan, as he wouldn’t be here for more than two seasons at best. He’s not without his merits though.
 

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If ETH only has one year left on his contract, he can't continue next season without signing a contract extension as to do so would show that the club do not have faith in him. So in my mind, it's either being "relieved of his duties" at the end of this season or sign a contract extension which is hard to imagine.
 

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Makes sense - could be a similar situation like with LVG, sacked just after the final.
I think if there's someone in mind, a la Mourinho, then for sure he'll be sacked. I don't see us sacking him after the final to replace him with Potter, for example. They've have done that by now.
 

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Tuchel would be extremely uninspiring but I might be able to just about get on board with it if it means the end of Ten Hag. Dark timeline.
There are no perfect replacements available at the moment, but I think if Ten Hag is fired this summer and the replacement is one of Tuchel, De Zerbi, Inzaghi, Luis Enrique, Unai Emery, Zidane etc (basically, any manager with a history of winning big trophies and/or coaching decent football at a high level), you will find a few detractors in each case, but generally fans will get on board with it. It's only really if Southgate gets the job that we will see a proper meltdown.
 
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If ETH only has one year left on his contract, he can't continue next season without signing a contract extension as to do so would show that the club do not have faith in him. So in my mind, it's either being "relieved of his duties" at the end of this season or sign a contract extension which is hard to imagine.
And the most likely outcome if you did extend his contract is exactly what happened with Ole, sacked a few months later anyway for increased compensation.

He goes at the end of the season I’m sure, we’ll hear more and more speculation about him leaving and possible replacements.

Interesting to see Amorim being linked with West Ham and being unlikely to go to Liverpool. Would be a more interesting option for us than the current favourites like Southgate, Potter and Tuchel.
 

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'Best in class' managers are very unlikely to choose to come here considering the current mess. They will have better options that are closer to the finished article and won't take a few years to start competing for the biggest trophies.

We need to steady the ship, get ourselves in a strong position, and develop and train the squad to play a style of football that lends itself to success. If ETH isn't capable of doing that, it's utterly pointless to just give him another 12 months because we couldn't get our perfect choice. Because what will happen in 12 months time is if we once again miss out on the CL and continue with this system of chaos football, that perfect manager will join Liverpool/City/Real/Barca/Bayern/PSG instead and we've just wasted more time, more money and more prestige. Because unlike us, those clubs will sack underperforming managers once it's obvious that they aren't good enough, so just because they are signing a new manager this season doesn't mean they won't be doing the same in 12 months time.

The next manager doesn't have to be the one who truly takes us back to the absolute top. They need to improve things and move us in the right direction, and then we can make the decision on whether they've taken us as far as they can or whether they will actually able to take us back to the top themselves. Obviously in an ideal world it'll be them, but it's not an absolute necessity.
I don't really disagree with anything you've said. My point is that I just don't see anyone out there who is a good fit and a certain upgrade over Ten Hag. This guy was 'the next best thing' until he came here. We shouldn't just change manager for the sake of it. My caveat would be that the football has to improve and we need to see a style of play.
 

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I've pre-empted that by having a tenner on him :lol:
I put £2 on Luis Enrique when he was (and he still might be) about 50/1

I imagine most people assume that because he's already at PSG that he won't be interested, but I think he would jump at it. And INEOS have shown that they aren't afraid of trying to hire from the super rich oil clubs.
 

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I put £2 on Luis Enrique when he was (and he still might be) about 50/1

I imagine most people assume that because he's already at PSG that he won't be interested, but I think he would jump at it. And INEOS have shown that they aren't afraid of trying to hire from the super rich oil clubs.
I had a tenner on Tuchel @ 10/1

Looked about 10 minutes later and he was 9/2 :lol:
 

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Still don't trust the Tuchel links, feels like it's coming from the manager side.


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Don't usually like discrediting people but that's the guy that said Rangnick is not coming a few hours before we announced him :lol: .

More often than not, he's more of a promotional tool, as opposed to having any real sources.
 

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Keep drilling your players to injury so you have a constant out.
More worrying the amount of leads 1 goal, 2 goal and even 3 goals, makes you wonder if ETH should be investigated for Match Fixing, he had form with Ajax losing important leads no bigger than CL SF against Spurs but this season it’s beyond just worrying!
 

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Still don't trust the Tuchel links, feels like it's coming from the manager side.


Don't usually like discrediting people but that's the guy that said Rangnick is not coming a few hours before we announced him :lol: .

More often than not, he's more of a promotional tool, as opposed to having any real sources.
We also had kicker / Georg Holzner as a first tier earlier source for the Tuchel links. However he reported that Ratcliffe asked about him, but that Tuchel wants to focus on the job at hand at the moment. So confirming the general interest, but also denied ongoing negotiations or something like that - at least at the moment. Falk adds nothing to that story here so I guess his post is just made up without having any real sources of his own.
 

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1) Under the age of 45
2) Plays progressive football
3) Promotes youth
4) Has experience managing a big "20" club
5) Must have won trophies

Xavi is probably the only one who, at least partially, satisfies all of this?
 

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Tuchel ist definitely a character. You would think after his last year at Bayern he would prefer a more stable job. But not Tuchel, it even looks like the complicated dressing room and challenges in Munich weren't enough for him. He wants more chaos and the ultimate challenge. Welcome to United.
 

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Tuchel ist definitely a character. You would think after his last year at Bayern he would prefer a more stable job. But not Tuchel, it even looks like the complicated dressing room and challenges in Munich weren't enough for him. He wants more chaos and the ultimate challenge. Welcome to United.
We're the third biggest club in the world and the biggest one of the best league in the world. Of course he will want United. Not often do you get an opportunity like this.
 

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Tuchel ist definitely a character. You would think after his last year at Bayern he would prefer a more stable job. But not Tuchel, it even looks like the complicated dressing room and challenges in Munich weren't enough for him. He wants more chaos and the ultimate challenge. Welcome to United.
Or a multi-year contract with a significant severance package. How can he lose?
 

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Tuchel ist definitely a character. You would think after his last year at Bayern he would prefer a more stable job. But not Tuchel, it even looks like the complicated dressing room and challenges in Munich weren't enough for him. He wants more chaos and the ultimate challenge. Welcome to United.
Sometimes I feel like Tuchel would be bored if he had noone to fight with. No matter be it his own CEO or club president (Hainer, Watzke), random players (Shawn Parker :lol: ), media pundits (Hamann, Matthäus) or probably indeed the tea lady.
 

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IF they do fire EtH after the cup final then they must have somebody lined up. Too late to start negotiations for managers already under contract elsewhere, and wouldn’t really want to pay compensation anyway. To me that’s starting to look like Tuchel, the timing just works perfectly. If they wanted Potter they could have got him in already. I’m not against Tuchel personally, as I don’t think there is anyone better that could be available at short notice, but he doesn’t fill me with enthusiasm either.
 

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Nobody saw the Berrada move coming. We'd missed the boat with Ashworth as he was at Newcastle so he's not going to come now. Wilcox was one of a couple of names but hadn't been at Southampton very long so why would he want to move again especially to basket case United. I get the impression that if SJR wants somebody then he'll get them. If Erik goes then I wouldn't be surprised to see us appoint someone 'ungettable' that the media haven't been able to clickbait for weeks like they're doing with the obvious names as they know nothing.