Who should replace Ed Woodward as Executive Vice Chairman?

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People thinking that anyone who spends 5bilion on a club for no financial or political gain are out of their fecking minds.
 

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More I think about it the more I feel the next person is going to be a whole lot worse. Another person clueless about football who will take 6 years to learn on the job.
Why can't the Glazers just pinch someone with experience at another club?

Doesn't even have to be a renegade football man.

But they'll choose their buddy instead
 

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The person they (Glazer's) select, doesn't have to be knowledgeable about football. The job in it's current state from a football perspective is in excellent shape with people with vast experience occupying key roles with in the football structure who oversee the biggest scouting network in the world. People like Jim Lawlor and Mick Court who worked under Fergie to David Harrison who we poached from City, Marcel Bout who has vast experience at the highest level in European football, Henny de Regt who oversees the European scouting and has been involved in football since the mid 70s. And then you have Murtough and Fletcher along with Solskjaer at the top.

The new CEO is gonna walk into a job that has immense potential due to the footballing structure he will inherit. When Fergie retired along with his brother Martin Ferguson. We were left with Jim Lawlor as the only fulltime scout along with Derek Langley who was the head of youth recruitment and Mick Court who was technical analyst. Langley has been replaced by David Harrison who we poached from Man City and Court and Lawlor are still at the club. We've also added a extra 50 plus scouts and even more experience overseeing those scouts in the Dutch duo Marcel Bout who is the head of global scouting and Henny de Regt who is the head of European scouting. The conditions for the new guy to succeed are very high IMO.
 

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True. Wasn't PLC a better model, given that?
Yep, PLC would be better but as a company it's under more strict regulation.
Also, if the current owners would want to go from private to PLC, they'd sell a lot of shares to the public and gain quite a lot of capital, mostly in their pockets.

From my limited knowledge though, moving to PLC would ease up any selling process.
 

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If Richard Arnold us appointed by Ed Woodward then the club truly is finished.

It's time to get serious now guys. Boycott the games. These half arsed demonstrations outside the ground before everyone rushes for their seat do sweet feck all.

If the Glazers are hurt in the pocket they will get the point. Until then they will continue to take the pee out of this club.
 

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It will be Richard Arnold..
So predictable isn't it.

First time i saw him years ago, you could just tell he was a prick too. Just the type the Glazers love.

Another guy who doesn't know anything about football being in charge would be a nightmare. I can only cross my fingers we're wrong. But it's inevitable.
 

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So predictable isn't it.

First time i saw him years ago, you could just tell he was a prick too. Just the type the Glazers love.

Another guy who doesn't know anything about football being in charge would be a nightmare. I can only cross my fingers we're wrong. But it's inevitable.
The problem is this. Football people running multimillion pound businesses lead to bankruptcy, business people running football clubs leads to poor sporting strategic design making. Ideally two things need to happen:

1. Hire a highly qualified CEO for a large organisation with control over finance and business strategy.
2. Give complete autonomy to a football director with control over sporting strategic intent.
 

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What the actual feck?!?!?
It’ll be another JP Morgan stooge to keep up the leverage payments and keep the sponsorship money rolling in

Also diligently working on the next instalment of super league surprise. Don’t let them do it again because they won’t mess up next time
 
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Another guy who doesn't know anything about football being in charge would be a nightmare. I can only cross my fingers we're wrong. But it's inevitable.
I'm fine with somebody who doesn't know much about football as long as he recognises that he knows nothing about football, and leaves that side of the business to the qualified people. If he comes in and focuses entirely on the financial and commercial side of things, and his only direct contribution to the football side of things is to provide the yearly budget and to cut weak links if the DoF isn't working out, it's happy days.

The two nightmare scenarios are somebody who doesn't know anything about football trying to be involved in that aspect (which seemed to be Woodward's big issue, although he did seem to start delegating more towards the end), or a football man trying to be involved in the financial side of things when they are no good at that. Either one ends terribly.

In theory the perfect scenario is a football man who is also great with the financial aspects, but if we had to choose one or the other it would rightfully be the financial guru. A good CEO then knows to surround himself with the right people and ensures he delegates to fit everyone's strengths.
 

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If it's Judge or Arnold or anyone from JP Morgan we are still screwed. Has to be someone who has been CEO of another club.

Glazers have to go
 

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I'm fine with somebody who doesn't know much about football as long as he recognises that he knows nothing about football, and leaves that side of the business to the qualified people. If he comes in and focuses entirely on the financial and commercial side of things, and his only direct contribution to the football side of things is to provide the yearly budget and to cut weak links if the DoF isn't working out, it's happy days.

The two nightmare scenarios are somebody who doesn't know anything about football trying to be involved in that aspect (which seemed to be Woodward's big issue, although he did seem to start delegating more towards the end), or a football man trying to be involved in the financial side of things when they are no good at that. Either one ends terribly.

In theory the perfect scenario is a football man who is also great with the financial aspects, but if we had to choose one or the other it would rightfully be the financial guru. A good CEO then knows to surround himself with the right people and ensures he delegates to fit everyone's strengths.
Hmm i still think its a dangerous game.

People who don't understand football don't understand the importance of spending to improve the team etc. They just can't see the importance if they can still make money anyway. He'll still have the final say.

Gill wasn't a football man, but he knew about football. I fear Arnold is more like Woodward, with limited interest in seeing the team perform well if it means less profits.
 

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If it is anyone internal the Glazers would be ensuring these protests get as big as can be.

It should be someone who has been a CEO of a successful or atleast we'll run club.
 
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How long has Semmens been at Southampton? It used to be a really well run club until very recently.
Still is very well run. They have a limited budget and yet do shrewd work in the transfer market and frequently punch above their weight. The fade in the second half of this season has more to do with the realities of a small club with a limited squad who cannot effectively mitigate injury problems. They had a spate of injuries starting in December and the multiple missed games by Ings and Vestergaard combined with the long term absence of Romeu has really impacted them. They will still be in the PL next season though and have an excellent recruitment and youth setup. Not sure how much credit Semmens is due for this but hard to imagine he would be worse than Ed.
 

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It’s still a very well run club.
Still is very well run. They have a limited budget and yet do shrewd work in the transfer market and frequently punch above their weight. The fade in the second half of this season has more to do with the realities of a small club with a limited squad who cannot effectively mitigate injury problems. They had a spate of injuries starting in December and the multiple missed games by Ings and Vestergaard combined with the long term absence of Romeu has really impacted them. They will still be in the PL next season though and have an excellent recruitment and youth setup. Not sure how much credit Semmens is due for this but hard to imagine he would be worse than Ed.
Well, I was pretty amazed that they tried to loan and sell as many squad players as possible before the end of the January window - so I looked at their fans forums and people were saying there were calls from up top to service debts and cut costs at every opportunity. It's not like they've been some big spenders.

According to Transfermarkt over the last 5 years their net spend has been 28m Euros.
 

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If it's true that Woodward has a hand in picking his own replacement, that's a big enough reason alone for a mass protest. We're going to be held hostage by a man who failed in his role and resigned his post? In what world?
 

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Well, I was pretty amazed that they tried to loan and sell as many squad players as possible before the end of the January window - so I looked at their fans forums and people were saying there were calls from up top to service debts and cut costs at every opportunity. It's not like they've been some big spenders.

According to Transfermarkt over the last 5 years their net spend has been 28m Euros.
Wow. So the owners are pocketing the rest of the cash? That’s a horrible budget for any manager trying to survive in the PL let alone attempting to thrive.
 

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Wow. So the owners are pocketing the rest of the cash? That’s a horrible budget for any manager trying to survive in the PL let alone attempting to thrive.
Yeah, Hasenhüttl has his hands tied behind his back. I don't know what the money is going towards, but they spend very little and still the TV money is the Prem gold rush, so it doesn't add up.
 

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Yeah, Hasenhüttl has his hands tied behind his back. I don't know what the money is going towards, but they spend very little and still the TV money is the Prem gold rush, so it doesn't add up.
Their fans don’t seem to ever complain? I know that they have a decent stadium/youth/scouting setup and they are a selling club but all that aside surely they could still afford to spend 30/40 million a season just on the tv money alone? Those owners are ripping off the fans unless there’s something else important that I’m missing. Imagine supporting a club and knowing you have lots of money coming in, a good manager and good young players but your owners were totally happy with surivuval and selling your best players with almost 0 reinvestment. That would drive me mad
 

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Good, I hope he's reminded of the protests outside of Woodwards house and turns the job down when offered.

Need Glazer stooges far away from positions of influence at the club if we want to get back on our perch
 

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Would so like this to be true but didn't Whitwell & Mitten on their podcast suggest it will be Arnold/Baty, think the only reason that Crook is talking about it because he mentions the Southampton & Brighton CEO's and he's a South Coast correspondent. He will definitely be more connected that the MEN lot but certainly not as well connected as the other two I mentioned earlier.