Forevergiggs1
Full Member
The most annoying narrative in the defence of Ole is comparing him to what other managers do. SAF lost against x team in the cup must mean he's shit as well. Peps a serial bottler losing the CL final. Ole has a better record than Klopps first 100 games. It's impossible not to understand if Ole wins the PL or CL then he can afford to go out in the 3rd round of the league cup but as he hasn't the criticism is valid.Chelsea are CL winners under Tuchel and their improvement, especially tactically, has been enormous in a short span of time. He has less to prove than Ole. Surely you understand why people react differently to us going out of the EFL under Ole than say if it happens to Pep/SAF (not the case as Tuchel but same logic)?
In the expectations for the season thread I'm not sure of the percentages but it wouldn't surprise me if 90% said they'd expect United to win a domestic cup. Now that we're eliminated from one it reduces our chances by 50% but still people say it doesn't matter, tinpot cup anyway and if we go out of the FA Cup the narrative will change to cups don't matter. Its the league position that counts. If we scrape top 4 it will be because Pool, City and Chelsea have a lot better squads than us. For some just having a club legend as manager gives him a lot more leeway which automatically reduces the expectations in actually winning stuff which is a pretty sad state of affairs to be honest.