I agree the target should be top 4 or sack.
He is too good for skysports. Skysports don’t deserve his punditry. He makes all the other pundits look like amateurs.
Maybe because he is a manager and the others are pundits who are former players that are either failed as manager or dont have it in them to manage.
Fantastic post. We don't need an entire new regime to get things in order, certain decisions such as division between footballing and financial side will go a long way in sorting the mess at our club.
It makes no sense to sack him now, I wouldn't get rid of him even if we're languishing properly in mid-table. He has certain ideas about the kind of team/football he wants to build/play, give him another window and until the end of season to see if there has been any progress.
Mourinho wasted an incredible amount of money during his tenure here, but it's disingenuous to use 2015/16 season as sort of barometer of where teams actually were. Leicester won the PL by 10 points from the 2nd placed side and their total tally was mere 81 points. Fact of the matter is, lots of big clubs at the time were under-performing and undergoing through transitions, such as City (5th), Liverpool (8th) and Chelsea (10th). That season was an anamoly. City's form went down the shitter once they announced prematurely in January that Pep was going to be replacing Pellegrini, but they still reached CL SF only to lose out to Madrid on a 1-0 aggregate over the two legs (which was actually an own goal). You just need to take a look at their respective squads to look at the gulf in quality. Likes of Kompany, Otamendi, Fernandinho, Sterling, Silva, Aguero, de Bruyne were already at the club before Pep stepped a foot in. Were they performing at their actual level before he went here? Absolutely not, but the general quality was there to build a strong side around them which is what he did. You'd be hard pressed to find more than 2-3 players of similar quality in our squad, only certainty was De Gea. There other two were talented but extremely young players in Martial and Rashford. I don't buy it for a second that van Gaal left a good squad for his successor especially compared to other clubs in and around us.
It doesn't add up because you are blatantly ignoring the games played column. I doubt anyone would think it's fine for us to finish 8th.
So you are happy with the business done and think thins squad is good enough to challenge for major honours.
I'm not talking about where we are currently, the season is too new to be fixated about current league position. I was talking about our finish at the end of season, many of his supporters expect a 6th placed finish (or even worse) at the end of current season. I was just asking how is it ok for the said manager to amass 3rd most points in a 6 month period, and then in the following full season to come finish 3 places below that position.
Well you can rule 1st and 2nd out before the season started even more so now since we are already 7 points off the pace of those scouse bar stewards.
I am not an Ole supporter. I believe that Ole is yet another example in Woodward's endless list of mistakes. The fact that we hired somebody with barely no experience to lead us through this massive rebuilt is almost tragic. How could a person whose only success was 2 league titles and a Norwegian Football Cup with Molde between 2011 and 2013 (aka 6-8 years ago) lead such massive club whose in the middle of such crisis?
Strictly speaking we don't need that. The Glazers can restructure the club to reflect how modern clubs work. After that is done then they can inject some serious money in the club in the hope it won't be wasted again. However, I do question the will and their financial pull to do so. We have been on the lookout for a DOF for over a year now and our last 2 summer transfer markets were underwhelming at best. Honestly with so much cost cutting & so many roles which were either not filled or given to people with little experience (hence with little salary), I do wonder whether the club is on sale.
This is not my area of my expertise so I can't really comment on that. However, in normal circumstances, I doubt that selling when profits are on the wane is a good idea. You'll want to sell when profits are still on the rise even though minimally to make a killing.
They will get out at the point they can see issues a few years out, I don’t think we are there yet. if they can find a buyer obviously.
We are in the very beginning of a multi year/transfer window tear down and complete rebuild of team and club culture with NO focus on where we are in the league right now. This team in its current form cant compete. SAF couldnt win with this team. but you expect Ole to?
Exactly. What’s the purpose on feeding of the wolves? It usually a sign for manager looking for to get sacked.
As said this is not my area of expertise. However I did noticed 2 clubs (the Milanese clubs) that I followed closely being sold. The lingo is pretty much the same
And a big part of that plan should be to ensure that Manchester United has the very best coaches to deliver the very best coaching in order to improve each of the players within the squad.
Sounds a lot like our current mob, they did sanction the Ole job right quick and any new owners usually want their own boy so it’s not like they have as huge a pay off as our previous 3 clowns.
This one is disingenuous. It was an answer to a question about commercial deals asked by a shareholder.
Still a stupid answer, the only reason we have these deals was because of past performances on the pitch.
No, it's the accurate answer. Here is the question: Do you see any potential for incremental sponsorship opportunities given team performance?
That’s what I’m saying, if during an investor call he says that performances on the pitch are irrelevant it’s horse shit, sponsors will sponsor a team that has won, is gonna win, or looks likely to win in the future.
That's not what he said and that's not what he was asked about. I gave you the exact question.
Lost me pal, you said is there incremental business to be had I’m agreeing with you no.
This makes no sense, his answer is correct and there is nothing wrong about it, particularly when it's to a shareholder during a conference call. It would be foolish to say anything else.
It’s actually fraudulent to suggest performances on the pitch is irrelevant to the financial performances of the club.
Again that's not what he said, nor what he asked about.
Ok I think we are misunderstanding each other here then, I was replying to your highlighted post which is what you highlighted he said
Interesting. Did Ed say that in his first season after taking the job? If so, I wonder if he still believes it’s true today.
Finally understand where you are coming from, I thought that question was for me. So you meant that is actually what he said.
No, the question was linked to the CL qualification in May 2018. And to be clear it's about a single season and the consequence regarding sponsorship prospects.
Thanks. It’s surprising that CL qualification doesn’t bring greater sponsorship opportunities.
Yeah, strongly disagree, the potential in the squad is scary, we just need Ole to get a tune out of them now.
If you're given 150m for one transfer budget, and you cant even create a team good enough to challenge top 6 then it's on the manager.
It is good enough to challenge for top 6 (although Everton and Leicester have first XIs as good as ours).
I am not a fan of Ole and I wish him gone tbh, however that's BS. Sure the club had spent big in building defence. However midfield and forward line is all but gone. Lukaku, Sanchez, Herrera, Fellaini....all gone and there was like zero investment to replace them.
