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That's just your memory mateMy living memory doesn't span back that far, sadly.
That phrase means what can be remembered by all of those who are currently alive.
That's just your memory mateMy living memory doesn't span back that far, sadly.
None of those are answers to what was asked.Bruno Fernandes is:
Our most talented player
Our most important player
Our most consistent player
Arguably our most dedicated player
End of!
So they didnt include... but fax crying wuss got in, now thats funny.https://www.manutd.com/en/players-and-staff/legends
Funnily enough, this is our official legends list.
I got bamboozled too, but it's just a list over the top 25 in terms of goals and appearances. I guess "legends" was just the term they ended up choosing to describe both.So they didnt include... but fax crying wuss got in, now thats funny.
In the OP it was mentioned he has the credentials to become a legend. Surely some of those "answers" would be significant as to what we expect of a united legend. You can also add to the list the fact he's carried the team for most of his tenure.None of those are answers to what was asked.
Well to play devil's advocate being the best of a bad bunch does not a legend make.In the OP it was mentioned he has the credentials to become a legend. Surely some of those "answers" would be significant as to what we expect of a united legend. You can also add to the list the fact he's carried the team for most of his tenure.
63 caps for his country wouldn't exactly support your valuation of the player would it? To add to that he has played his best football for his country during his time at utd.Well to play devil's advocate being the best of a bad bunch does not a legend make.
I read it Just curious how anyone could even doubt that!Did you not read the first line of my post?
In my book: of course he is! As are the others on that list.
“Carrying” a poor team while also generally failing constantly against good teams doesn’t mean much. Not for legend status at a club like United that’s for sure.In the OP it was mentioned he has the credentials to become a legend. Surely some of those "answers" would be significant as to what we expect of a united legend. You can also add to the list the fact he's carried the team for most of his tenure.
Well it’s a hell of a lot easier to judge a footballer’s ability as a player than as a captain, that’s for damn sure.Other way round. Maguire is the far worse player, but a better captain.
Robson is a legend because he was literally Roy of the fecking Rovers for us, being the difference in so many huge games. He was an almighty inspiration. Feck me he was god like. Go watch the Barca game and dozens of Liverpool games. He didn’t drop 4-5 out of 10 performances ever….Nevermind 4 games out of 5.---> I'm not saying that they are the same type of player or equals in any way, shape or form <---
Would Robson not have been a United legend if he left us before winning the PL? He was 36 when he won his first PL trophy, so it's hardly a crazy thought-experiment.
In my book he would most definitely still be a legend. And that is why I can't use that as a legend qualifier. It's more complicated than that.
Preach!Robson is a legend because he was literally Roy of the fecking Rovers for us, being the difference in so many huge games. He was an almighty inspiration. Feck me he was god like. Go watch the Barca game and dozens of Liverpool games. He didn’t drop 4-5 out of 10 performances ever….Nevermind 4 games out of 5.
I think you're missing the point. I said I was playing devil's advocate. Although, I don't think any of what you said is relevant in an under-performing team though and certainly international performances don't play into him being considered a United legend.63 caps for his country wouldn't exactly support your valuation of the player would it? To add to that he has played his best football for his country during his time at utd.
He's not very good, loses the ball way too much doing brain dead decisions and is annoying as hell to watch.Rather its you who isn't any good at understanding football, hence such a fallacious claim hails from you
“Emotionally veering off topic?” What a load of nonsense. You display arrogance, yet dont enter the debate with any useful arguments at all, then just try to slag off people who actually do come up with arguments. If you disagree, at least do use arguments/point out where you disagree. Else this forum would just be like 4 year olds yelling at each other, which is frankly what your post reminds me of. Boring stuff.So you went from random hysterics to widely off the mark assumptions. Cool, can we get back to the matter at hand?
For clarification - there's no arrogance in asking you to get back on track if you're emotionally veering off-topic. This is a thread about the supposed merits an argument of Bruno Fernandes as United legend, has. Evidently some think he's already one, which I find wild. For you to use that as a segue for "been our best performer almost every year since joining, but yeah let’s slag him off and pretend United will turn everything around completely as soon as he’s gone." is odd.
We've not actually been any good barring a few fits and spurts since he's been here.Been our best performer almost every year since joining, but yeah let’s slag him off and pretend United will turn everything around completely as soon as he’s gone.
So, you’re subjective, I’m subjective. But is it really necessary to call me not watching with eyes? I mean come on, we can disagree but .. this? I’ve watched every game like you probably have. At least I can respect you have a different opinion than me.No he hasn’t. Bar the first 12 months he hasn’t performed consistently well at all. He’s just played regularly. His performances the season Ronaldo was here were abysmal and he cost us in massive moments. Last season Casemiro, Martinez, Rashford and Shaw were consistently very good and Bruno was not. He’s also been dreadful in almost all the big games he’s featured in.
There’s little point in asking you, if you think he played as well as Ronaldo did in 21/22 and Casemiro last season because you were watching not with eyes.
Also: we were worse before he came here.We've not actually been any good barring a few fits and spurts since he's been here.
The point, obviously, is that the team wilts in any adverse circumstance and as we all know, he is wilter-in-chief. He also lacks the ability and composure to impose himself on big games.But those aren’t relevant to your campaign to crucify Bruno for team failings? Gotcha.
Oh I'm not in doubt nor in disagreement!@Scandi Red the 7500 united away fans were singing Solskjaer songs throughout the match on Monday. Make no mistake Solskjaer is still a legend in Manchester.
That doesn’t actually play out.Also: we were worse before he came here.
And I’m not arguing that he should be a club legend. Just highlighting the terrible logic in your posts. Which is about as interesting as this ridiculous thread gets.The point, obviously, is that the team wilts in any adverse circumstance and as we all know, he is wilter-in-chief. He also lacks the ability and composure to impose himself on big games.
Under 3 different managers, but the same Bruno. 1 win in 17.
The thread is about whether a mediocre whingebag who has never taken one of these games by the scruff of the neck should be a club legend, remember.
He would have been brilliant with scholes and Carrick behind himHe wouldn't get in the teams that Fergie had... so no.