Will Bruno achieve legend status at utd?

I want this idea that he is good at set pieces to die

He's awful at them

He did one brilliant lob thing from a free kick once and has lived on it since
 
I would think it must be quite difficult for anyone during this "barren period" (post SAF) of the club to achieve such status - seen as what those who have come before them has achieved, won and contributed etc. If he stays and we win a couple of big trophies - with him in great form, he has every chance and probably should/will. If it remains as is for another few years, it would be very difficult IMO. I guess it will boil down to individual preference - and how you define a legend but there'd be very little merit/substance behind it.
 
I think it depends on where you draw the line. If Park and Carrick are United are to be considered legends, then so should Bruno if we're being honest.

But if it's one thing the post Fergie era has taught me about United fans (at least online), it's that a player's legend status largely is dictated by their number of trophies won whilst playing for United. There are very few exceptions. At least among modern fans. De Gea is the best example of this. He should be a no-brainer for the legend discussion, but many posters outright seem to despise him. It's "death by association" in its purest form. It's impossible to remember De Gea without remembering the dark times post Fergie. Some fans even forget that De Gea has won the Premier League!
 
People don't think DDG is one. He's got no chance unfortunately, no matter what he does himself.
 
Scandi Red said:
I think it depends on where you draw the line. If Park and Carrick are United are to be considered legends, then so should Bruno if we're being honest.

But if it's one thing the post Fergie era has taught me about United fans (at least online), it's that a player's legend status largely is dictated by number of trophies. There are very few exceptions. At least among modern fans. De Gea is the best example of this. He should be a no-brainer for the legend discussion, but many posters outright seem to despise him. It's "death by association" in its purest form. It's impossible to remember De Gea without remembering the dark times post Fergie. Some fans even forget that De Gea has won the Premier League!
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It's because a large part of our fanbase get nothing out of actually watching a football match. I genuinely believe that.

They're all fixated on the long term - i.e. the Wikipedia entries on the trophy sheet, the tenure of a manager etc. Game to game, does nothing for our fans and they get nothing from watching good football, goals or performances. It's why they're not bothered by the 7-0s, 5-0s etc as long as erm we got top 4 or something of that ilk.
 
No and I hope he won't have the chance to as well. He lacks personality to be deemed as a United legend. He is too unlikeable and whiny.
 
TsuWave said:
What the hell??? :confused:

We're Manchester United, you know.

Edit - Just noticed the OP also says "he must have all the credentials, surely?". Wow.
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Been our best performer almost every year since joining, but yeah let’s slag him off and pretend United will turn everything around completely as soon as he’s gone.
 
(I consider ALL of the below to be United legends, but I've split them into two groups. The second group consists of players who I have experienced people disagreeing with me on multiple times. So don't shoot the messenger! :lol: )

More or less undisputed United legends
Edwards, Charlton, Law, Best, Robson, Schmeichel, Giggs, Scholes, G.Neville, Irwin, Keane, Cantona, Cole, Stam, Rio, Vidic, Rooney

Seems to be up for debate
Beckham, Solskjær*, Evra, Park, Carrick, De Gea, Ronaldo**

* his reputation (unfairly) took a blow after his managerial stint
** (rightfully) fell down after his second stint

The only thing these all have in common are Premier League/English First Division trophies. Some are there primarily because of their hard work, others for their x factor. Some were at the club for a long time, others for just 3 years.

There are multiple players on this list that Bruno is more talented than. There are multiple players on this list that Bruno will have stuck around for longer than this summer. And in terms of hard work and effort, Bruno does in no way look out of place. The only way to exclude Bruno (provided that you agree on the second group as well) is if you consider winning the PL a necessity in order to be considered a legend. Personally I disagree with this distinction so regardless of happens in the upcoming years Bruno has already done enough to warrant a spot in that second group.
 
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Unlikely. More likely he will be fondly remembered here but he will fall into the same category as Mata or Herrera and not legend status.
 
ROFLUTION said:
Been our best performer almost every year since joining, but yeah let’s slag him off and pretend United will turn everything around completely as soon as he’s gone.
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That’s bollocks.

Rashford last year, Martinez and Casemiro plus Shaw at least were better.
Ronaldo the year before and Bruno was abysmal.
His first season he only played three months of football and his second and only legitimate argument to your claim, I’d say his form dropped off a cliff from January.

The crazy thing is that he’s been truly awful this season…but he’d probably get it by default given the injuries and the fact nobody else has played consistently bar him and Rashford. As bad as Bruno has been, he hasn’t been as bad a Rashford. I’d put Garnacho and McT ahead of him and Lindelof and Maguire but they don’t have the popularity to win it. If Mainoo continues his form he’s been outstanding.
 
DJ Jeff said:
Absolutely not. When he goes I'll be relieved.
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I've come to this conclusion this season.
I think once we get another possession based midfielder to partner Mainoo, we should sell Bruno and get a second striker like Morgan Gibbs-White.
 
Jeppers7 said:
That’s bollocks.

Rashford last year, Martinez and Casemiro plus Shaw at least were better.
Ronaldo the year before and Bruno was abysmal.
His first season he only played three months of football and his second and only legitimate argument to your claim, I’d say his form dropped off a cliff from January.

The crazy thing is that he’s been truly awful this season…but he’d probably get it by default given the injuries and the fact nobody else has played consistently bar him and Rashford. As bad as Bruno has been, he hasn’t been as bad a Rashford. I’d put Garnacho and McT ahead of him and Lindelof and Maguire but they don’t have the popularity to win it. If Mainoo continues his form he’s been outstanding.
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Well top two of our performers every year then. And some of your mentions are debatable imo. All in all his performances are still quite stable and on a high level. His two first seasons were stand out and he carried the team. Since then his performances has still been close or more than just on par with Casemiro, Ronaldo if you ask me. He avoids injuries and therefore is also a bigger benefit to the team than Shaw/Martinez imo, as the fall off when going to their backups is quite big.

No other players have really done what he has here for many years albeit he’s not his best atm. Too much recency bias imo.
 
Surely... This is what legends are made of, being the best of a shitty bunch. Give it to Rashford as well then.
 
Taking a good corner and not setting up a break for the opposition would be a good start.

He's had some really good spells at the club and provided brilliants goals and assists. Sadly I think we overplayed him and he's become burnt out physically and mentally, a bit like Eriksen was at Spurs and even Trippier, they were seen as spent and needed to recover abroad.

A player like Bruno requires fit and ready runners or top quality movement. Greenwood, Martial, Rashford Cavani helped a lot, now we have a pretty much dead Martial, not much quality around him but he's lost his edge too, and in shooting and temperament. I think he could be better moving to another league or if we can rotate him with Eriksen and Mount with Case/Mainoo behind. The good can be outweighed by the bad still. Certainly a cult hero.
 
Rashford has scored more goals, scored in more important games that have led to trophies (Europa semi final, League Cup final etc).

Is he a legend?
 
If he takes us to a title challenge. If we win the fa cup. If we end up in semifinal or final of ucl. If he is here for another 4-6 year.

He has been key for us over the years but the supporting cast has failed him. He has created most chances than anyone but our strikers can put them in the net.
In the Galatasaray game he led the team to the lead but the defense and onana failed him.
So the sport is also about results. And your supporting cast.
 
A lot of time and silverware are needed for that. We're a historical club with many legendary players and the standards are higher than for almost 99% of other clubs.
 
He's dragged us through some difficult times but I highly doubt it. The bar should be much much higher and should include multiple league titles imo.
 
No, first because he isn't anywhere near as good as most United fans think.

Secondly, you need to at least have some actual legendary performances in big games to qualify if you aren't winning any big trophies. I see old fans here still talking about Robson's game against Barca, what's Bruno's most memorable game? He has also been awful or average in every final he has played.
 
He’s very good, to become a legend though, we would have to win major trophies soon.
 
Unless we start winning meaningful titles soon, it's unlikely.
 
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