Spot on - United manager or not he's done an objectively poor job in the grand scheme of things. He's not a winner so no big club will take him, he's not proven to be resourceful so that rules out the mid tier clubs, and he's not proven to be a fighter that can save relegation fodder so not even teams at the bottom would likely take him too. All he can offer is "DNA" and "Pashun" which won't be enough, even with Manchester United on his CV. He's also been reduced to a comic relief figure amongst the PL fans, with pretty much every other clubs' fans ironically signing his name, so can't imagine fans of any PL club being thrilled at appointing him.
Will Ole get another PL job after this?
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In my eyes, Ole is the worst manager in the PL and not good enough to manage any PL club unless the goal is to get relegated or underachieve. We see undeserved managerial appointments in the PL all the time so it wouldn't surprise me, but he's certainly not qualified for a PL job.
He’s an appalling manager who was spent a world beating fortune and achieved nothing. He is breaking records that are quite frankly embarrassing for him, the club and supporters. His vocal support of his under qualified and over hyped coaching staff should never see him get top level club again. He’s a managerial disaster.
PL chairmen in the lower half of the table tend to make silly appointments.
He will if he accepts that City, Chelsea, Pool etc. will not be knocking on his door.
An Everton, or a Southampton however might, or a club willing to pay high salary for his services to help them stay up.
An Everton, or a Southampton however might, or a club willing to pay high salary for his services to help them stay up.
No, only in norway and far oer
Like Mourinho, after Roma he is gonna manage only clubs of championship (middlsbrough, Huddersfield, Forest, Pescara, Mallorca, Rayo Vallecano)
Like Mourinho, after Roma he is gonna manage only clubs of championship (middlsbrough, Huddersfield, Forest, Pescara, Mallorca, Rayo Vallecano)
This part hasn’t sunk in to many… he’s doing badly is started to sink in, but how he is perceived and is a bit of a laughing stock isn’t.
Not a chance. He will be next Norway manager and that's it.
Absolutely insane that 83% of posters are saying no. Ole will 100% get another prem job after United. Absolutely can see him ending up at one of the usual suspects like Norwich or the like after a bit of a break to clear his head. He has gone as far as he can with United, but it's idiotic to suggest his stock in the management world has not risen from this tenure. The bitterness of the final days will be quickly forgotten and his body of work will be viewed less negatively as a whole. He's not going to a top 6 club but definitely a bottom half club if he wants it.
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Roma actually seem to be doing alright under Mourinho, although I can't claim to have watched much of them. Genuinly don't think Ole would have Roma in top 4, they'd be mid table.
I think he’ll get a shot somewhere. Not saying he’ll deserve it or he’ll do well but I think someone will take a chance on him based on his United experience and the fact he’s seen as a manager who supports his team and doesn’t agitate the board.
Its not like every PL club has / can attract a master tactician.
Its not like every PL club has / can attract a master tactician.
This. A lot of our fanbase is quite oblivious to the fact that the guy is literally a meme.
Nope, but his attitude, skills and results show that he might do a job for mid-table clubs in the Championship, improving their fundamentals and stabilising the culture. That’s not a given, and he will have offers imho.
My first instinct was to vote yes. Some day, who knows? But the more I think about it, the less likely it seems... Maybe some promoted side would want him, no? Stevenage?
For the money he would.
Lampard didn't. Neither will him.
Moyes has a huge history in PL before United anyway. He was Everton manager for 11 years. Of course teams will still want him.
Your kidding right. Not even Cardiff would have him back. Probably Molde would have to think twice.
No. Doubt he'll get another job at the age of 70 when his stint at United comes to an end. That's when the board finally get over the fact that van Gaal and Mourinho didn't work out and maybe they can improve with a new appointment.
Lampard could still get a job in the epl or championship, he did well in his first season at Chelsea to get a CL spot after losing Hazard and not being allowed any signings due to the transfer ban.
Managers who fail at a top club job get jobs at smaller clubs because
a- they had very well elsewhere. People like Mourinho or LVG might not be able to cut it at top club level anymore but their experience, contacts and winning mentality could help smaller clubs
b- they were excellent at small or mid tier level. Big Sam saved many clubs from relegation, Moyes tend to build sides that are difficult to crack, etc.
Ole fail on both counts. What Ole should do is to manage a team in an easy league like Scotland or Holland. If he wins a couple of cups there then he might stand a chance.
a- they had very well elsewhere. People like Mourinho or LVG might not be able to cut it at top club level anymore but their experience, contacts and winning mentality could help smaller clubs
b- they were excellent at small or mid tier level. Big Sam saved many clubs from relegation, Moyes tend to build sides that are difficult to crack, etc.
Ole fail on both counts. What Ole should do is to manage a team in an easy league like Scotland or Holland. If he wins a couple of cups there then he might stand a chance.
Wonder if Neville would hire him at Salford
No, imagine the football he'd produce if he had no money to spend and couldn't attract the likes of Varane and Ronaldo?
If he were in charge of the bottom 10 clubs (maybe go as far to say as 15 clubs) I'd be willing to bet he'd be in a relegation scrap.
If he were in charge of the bottom 10 clubs (maybe go as far to say as 15 clubs) I'd be willing to bet he'd be in a relegation scrap.
Yes. No other top league in Scandinavia will want anything to do with him. He is a bit of a joke over here. Might have a chance in Iceland or Finland, though.
Probably not, at least not straight after the United job anyway.
This was his record prior to signing Bruno Fernandes :
That's after having bought £150m worth of players in the summer transfer window. This guy is meant to keep clubs up in a relegation scrap without money to spend?
As a bonus his PL record with Cardiff:
Listening to him after the game today, he Didn't have a clue, what to say, and it tells me he's gone, international break he be gone they won't announce it yet imo until the guy there after agrees. If Oles still here , fecking next prem game, I don't know what I'd do.
Someone probably will offer a job, some terribly ran club like Watford. The question is whether he would take it but I am sure he will get 1 or 2 offers at some point no doubts.
This was his record prior to signing Bruno Fernandes :
That's after having bought £150m worth of players in the summer transfer window. This guy is meant to keep clubs up in a relegation scrap without money to spend?
As a bonus his PL record with Cardiff:
Thanks for the stats, his time at Cardiff would be what it would be like for the majority of the clubs I'm the league.
Imagine him at Newcastle spending billions and still coming up with excuses and sh*t football.
He is the worst manager in the league. The sum of the team is less than the sum of it’s parts. Virtually every team in the PL bosses us on the pitch, but we have so good players that we can brute force weaker teams into submission despite being outplayed.
checkbook manager performing like the good managers would if they had shit squads. Only Ole has one of the best squads in europe.
he is truly the worst manager in United history if you take context into consideration. Most money spent, 1/5 of all home losses through history is under his tenure.
His persistence in playing Fred and McTominay when everyone can see they are shit and that in game after game we literally have no midfield, makes me think he is either the most stubborn man alive or really stupid. I don’t know what is worse.
I wouldn’t hire him if the stadium parking lot hobo was interested in the manager position. That applied regardless of what imaginary team I was in charge of.
checkbook manager performing like the good managers would if they had shit squads. Only Ole has one of the best squads in europe.
he is truly the worst manager in United history if you take context into consideration. Most money spent, 1/5 of all home losses through history is under his tenure.
His persistence in playing Fred and McTominay when everyone can see they are shit and that in game after game we literally have no midfield, makes me think he is either the most stubborn man alive or really stupid. I don’t know what is worse.
I wouldn’t hire him if the stadium parking lot hobo was interested in the manager position. That applied regardless of what imaginary team I was in charge of.
Let’s be honest, Cardiff was a total mess before Ole took it on. Fergie warned him not too but he took it
And he made them worse?
They were 17th with 18 points from 20 games when he took over.
They then finished 20th getting just another 12 points from the next 18 games managed by him.
99% of management vacancies are there because the club is in a mess. If anything at Cardiff Ole had amongst the biggest budgets, at the time, for a team in the lower half.
And he stupidly put his trust in a bunch of young players that he’d coached at United. A rookie mistake
I don’t think he’d want to even if a club wanted to take the gamble on him.
Don't think he'll stay in England.
His redemption arc would be to go to another league with some repute, do well there, and then come back here when most of the furore has blown over, otherwise absolutely no chance.
I’m not necessarily talking immediately. Some people are saying he will NEVER get another job, which I think is silly. He will regroup somewhere and then probably go again when the right opportunity comes up
The question is, will any players take him seriously if he did? He can't get a tune out of our squad. What's he going to get out of a lower half or relegation bound PL squad?
If he did it would be another Cardiff situation